Haley On Coaches/Part 1 … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs
Todd Haley got a late start putting together his coaching staff for the 2009 season.
That left him in a position where he was concerned about the kind of coaches he would be able to hire for his first chance at being a head coach.
When the smoke cleared, Haley was very satisfied with the group he put together especially men like offensive line coach Bill Muir (left).
“It exceeded my expectations because of the late start,” said Haley. “To get some of the guys that we were able to bring in here has been a huge help to me in getting everything off the ground. We are all learning from each other and I think that’s a great way to bring a staff together.
“Not one person has all the answers, so we sit and talk a lot about methods, philosophy and the way we want to get things done.”
None of those assistant coaches has been available to the media; that’s pretty much standard operating procedure in the football worlds where Haley and GM Scott Pioli learned their trade. Those restrictions will have to lessen a bit once the season starts because under NFL mandate coordinators must be made available to speak to the media.
But since the assistants have not been allowed to speak, we asked Haley to talk about his staff. On Tuesday, we’ll cover the offense. On Wednesday the coach will speak of his staff on defense and special teams.
CHAN GAILEY/Offensive Coordinator-Quarterbacks Coach
Gailey is one of six holdovers from last year’s 2008 Chiefs coaching staff. League scuttlebutt says Pioli pushed hard to keep Gailey in Kansas City, rather than releasing him from his ‘09 commitment to the Chiefs.
That doesn’t mean Gailey was pushed on Haley. While their coaching paths have not crossed in the past, there’s little doubt Haley knew all about the coordinator from his history with Pittsburgh, Dallas, Georgia Tech, Miami and even Denver before that.
“Everybody in the NFL knows about Chan and what he can do,” said Haley. “When I came in, I looked at the tapes and I was very impressed with what they did last year under some tough circumstances. They found a way to be fairly productive the second half of the year. That showed his ability to adjust to the personnel that he had available to him.”
When it comes to play calling, Haley has found that Gailey and he talk the same language. They favor execution over surprise and putting their best players in position for the best results.
“I think you want to be good at what you do and not put in something new just to put something new in,” Haley said. “There’s nothing wrong with something unique every now and then, but we have to know what we can rely on and to learn that, we have to do it over and over again.”
This season will be Gailey’s second with the Chiefs, 16th in the NFL and 39th year in coaching.
MAURICE CARTHON/Assistant Head Coach-Running Backs Coach
Last year, Carthon was part of the Arizona Cardinals coaching staff and there was no doubt in Haley’s mind once he got the job with the Chiefs, he wanted to find a way to get Carthon to move with him.
“It took a lot of work, but we got that done,” said Haley. “He’s a huge addition. It was a huge get for us and a huge get for me.”
Carthon is a former USFL-NFL fullback who comes out of the Parcells’ school of football. Haley says he coaches the game much the same way he played it for 11 years with the New Jersey Generals, New York Giants and Indianapolis Colts.
“Mo is the best running back coach in the league,” Haley said. “He has a way of creating soldiers, not to disrespect real soldiers. But players that play for Mo, they always end up coming out of the same. They are mentally tough, he hardens them. He has the ability to really coach them hard, but at the same time they have a great love and respect for him in the end.
“Mo has taught me so much about coaching over the years. He is somebody that as a young coach I watched and paid attention to, because you could tell there was something special about him. He is one of the hardest workers I’ve ever been around. He brings great energy every day and it’s not just running backs. He’s the assistant head coach and he’s able to interact with everybody and I think he can have a great impact and he already has with this team.”
Haley worked with Carthon with the Jets, Cowboys and the last two years with the Cardinals. This will be Carthon’s 16th year in coaching, all in the NFL.
BILL MUIR/Offensive Line Coach
When Muir got his first coaching job back in 1965 at his alma mater Susquehanna University, Haley was not yet part of the planet. Muir was into his second coaching job at Delaware Valley College in 1967 when Richard Todd Haley arrived.
This will be the 28th season Muir has coached in the NFL and he had 31 seasons in the league. He’s been a coach for 41 years. He most recently served as the offensive coordinator/offensive line coach for Tampa Bay (2002-08). He has also enjoyed NFL coaching stops with the N.Y. Jets (’95-01, where he worked with Haley), Philadelphia (’92-94), Indianapolis (’89-91), Detroit (’85-88) and New England (’82-84). Muir coached collegiately at SMU, Idaho State, Rhode Island, Delaware Valley and Susquehanna. He also coached professionally for Houston/Shreveport of the World Football League back in the mid-1970s and in minor league football with Orlando of the Continental League.
Without a doubt he is the staff’s elder statesmen.
“The further I’ve gone in this business the more I’ve recognized Bill Muir as being the top at his job in this league,” Haley said. “I think he’s another excellent, excellent coach. He knows how to coach and he coaches how I believe you have to coach.
“He coaches them hard, but at the end the players have great respect for that. He’s not one of these guys trying to be their friend. But at the end they love him and have great respect for him, and I think that’s what coaching is all about. He gets results.”
DEDRIC WARD/Wide Receivers Coach
On the other end of the experience spectrum in coaching from Muir is Ward. This is his fourth season of coaching, and the first year he’s been a full-time position coach in the NFL. After his eight-year NFL playing career ended, Ward got a job coaching wide receivers at Missouri State. That’s when he got in touch with Haley, who had been his position coach with the Jets and Cowboys.
“I’ve known him for a long time and he was always a smart player that was very aware and knew all the positions and kind of saw the big picture,” Haley said. “When Dedric called me when he was coaching in college and talked about wanting to coach on the pro level. I worked to get him in there at Arizona and he did a very good job.”
Ward spent the last two seasons as the Cardinals offensive quality control coach, working closely with Haley in his role as the team’s offensive coordinator.
“He’s a young coach and he’s got a lot to learn,” said Haley. “But I think he’s surrounded by some very good coaches and has been around good coaching his whole career. I think he has a great chance to be a good coach.”
BOB BICKNELL/Tight Ends Coach
Another one of the holdovers from the ‘08 staff, Bicknell and Haley crossed paths several years ago. The head coach was with the Bears and Bicknell was an offensive coordinator in the World League/NFL Europe.
“When I was with the Bears we always had to go down to the World League training camps and Bob was a coordinator down there and I visited with him and talked about players and teams and the guys we (Bears) had in the league.
“I was impressed with how he ran the offense and coached the players. When I got here and sat down with him that background played some part in keeping him. He’s just a good coach. He’s got good roots and been around coaching all his life and those are good qualities to have.”
This is Bicknell’s third year with the Chiefs and coaching in the NFL and his 17th season in coaching. He put in eight years in the World League/NFL Europe.
JOE D’ALESSANDRIS/Assistant Offensive Line Coach
D’Alessandris was another holdover from last year’s staff. Haley liked his football roots coming out of western Pennsylvania (Aliquippa, PA) and common thinking on what’s important in the game. He also like Joe D’s ability to teach offensive linemen.
“I think Joe is another guy with very good experience that has been around, in Canada and in colleges,” Haley said. “He’s into coaching, it’s pretty important to him. He likes to teach and in this day and age of trying to develop offensive linemen, it’s critical to have somebody who is not your main offensive line coach that can spend the extra time and do the extra things with these guys and try to develop them. That’s really his main job.”
This is D’Alessandris’ second year with the Chiefs and in the NFL, and his 33rd year in coaching, that included stints in the Canadian Football League and the World League, as well as college football.
NICK SIRIANNI/Offensive Quality Control
For years, the Haley family has spent part of the summer at a cabin on a lake in western New York. During his time there, Haley has always used the facilities at a Y.M.C.A. in a nearby Jamestown to workout.
There’s where he met Nick Sirianni, who at the time was playing college football at Mt. Union College, the NCAA Division III powerhouse in Ohio. Every summer, Haley would be back on the lake and back at the “Y” lifting weights. So would Sirianni.
“I think he timed out his lifts to come in when I was in there,” Haley said with a smile. “He bugged me every day. He would ask questions about how he could improve himself as a player. Then when he got into coaching, he would ask questions about coaching, strategy and stuff like that. He really reminded me of me.”
Sirianni is in his first NFL season and sixth year in coaching, working at his alma mater and the last three seasons at Indiana University of Pennsylvania.
“I think he’s another guy with a great background” said Haley. “The fact he was at Mt. Union and won championships there (two as a player, one as an assistant coach.) His father is a long-time coach. His brother is the head coach at Washington & Jefferson. Another brother is the head coach of a high school team that won a state championship in New York. I think coaching is in his blood. The fact he was around the Mt. Union aspect was intriguing; as much as they’ve won, it’s got a rub off a little on everybody involved.
“He’s a young, energetic, smart guy who is willing to sacrifice and is willing to drop everything for the opportunity.”
GROUNDBREAKING HELD IN ST. JOE FOR CAMP CONSTRUCTION
They turned the dirt at Missouri Western University on Monday, kicking off the construction of a new facility on the campus in St. Joseph that will help bring Chiefs training camp to the city.
Among the many dignitaries taking part in the ceremony was Chiefs President Denny Thum.
“Today marks a special occasion,” said Thum. “It represents the Chiefs return to Missouri and to the local fans who have meant so much to this franchise’s success through the years. We’re delighted with the cooperation we have received from the various entities and are looking forward to our new partnership with the university, the local community, and the various government officials who have aided us in making today a reality.”
The biggest part of the construction is an indoor practice facility that would be available to the Chiefs for inclement weather and will provide locker room and training facilities. They will leave for the 19th consecutive training camp in River Falls, Wisconsin on July 30. If construction proceeds as planned and the facilities are ready, they will hold the 2010 training camp at Missouri Western. The last time the Chiefs held training camp close to Kansas City was 1991, when they were in their 29th year at William Jewell College.
MOVEMENT & SIGNINGS AROUND THE LEAGUE
EAGLES – signed second-round draft choice RB LeSean McCoy.
GIANTS – signed third-round draft choice TE Travis Beckum
JAGUARS – agreed to terms with sixth-round draft choice TE Zach Miller.
SAINTS – signed LS Jason Kyle; released LS Kevin Houser.
STEELERS – signed third-round draft choice OL Kraig Urbik.
SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY …
Born on June 30, 1966 in Livermore, California was P Louie Aguiar. He kicked 10 seasons in the NFL, including five years with the Chiefs (1994-98.) Aguiar kicked 421 times for a 42.6-yard average in the 80 games he played with the team. He also had a 35-yard pass completion on a fake punt. In his career, he kicked for a total of four teams.
Born on June 30, 1984 in Pasadena, California was CB Tyron Brackenridge. He signed with the Chiefs as a college free agent in 2007 and played 14 games with one start during the 2007-08 seasons. He scored a touchdown in ‘07 on a fumble return against San Diego.
Born on June 30, 1978 in Shreveport was CB Pat Dennis. He was a fifth-round choice in the 2000 NFL Draft by the Chiefs out of Louisiana-Monroe. Dennis spent that rookie season with the team, appearing in 16 games, with 13 starts. He ended up playing with four different teams over four seasons.
Thanks for the insight on some of our coaches Bob. I hope the perform as well as they sound….because they sound like a good group….at least on paper….or computer monitor.
Good read this morning, Bob.
One of the many things Haley will have to show as a head coach is that he knows when to lead and when to get out of the way. It sounds like he trusts his coaches, which would seem to be a good start.
The relationship between Haley and Chan Gailey will be interesting to watch; it seems like the one with the most potential difficulties.
I think Clark Hunt knew what he wanted, reached in his pocket, took out a couple key’s and unlocked the RIGHT door.
Thank’s again Mr. Gretz~
Another outstanding article that the other media cannot or don’t want to match. (A topic that still gets my fur up). Anyway, I enjoyed getting an insight into the staff and I do agree with Haley on his comment about Gailey getting the most out of what he had last year as OC.
I’m the Michael Jordan of motivating Michael Jordan!
Coaching has been a HUGE problem for us the last couple of years, from the Head Coach on down…with only a few bright spots (Gailey).
I’m excited to see what this new group can do with our team…especailly after they get a little time to “gel” with each other, and the players.
I agree ILChiefsFan, Haley and Gailey will be interesting to watch. Haley is just going to have to remember that he’s now the Head Coach…and not an Offensive Coordinator. He’ll need to let Chan do his thing.
I’m also interested to see how Carthon does with the running backs. Especially LJ. Can he help make him productive again? How will he do with the younger guys? I say this because, if we can’t run the ball this year…we’ll be in big trouble. I understand (and agree for the most part) with the O-line arguement. But, the RB’s will have to find a way to produce…no excuses.
Questions, so many questions…
Do assistant coaches have to make an appointment or like players, do folks just talk nee catch as catch can in the vestibule?
What’s that? Yes, I have my credentials right here and- pardon me? No I’m not, I just play one…like you.
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“Not one person has all the answers”
- well now, that’s progress. Maybe in hindsight offensive lineman ‘can’ make a BIG impression…
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“None of those assistant coaches has been available to the media”
- no, that’s true…
“that’s pretty much standard operating procedure in the football worlds where Haley and GM Scott Pioli learned their trade.”
- the last planet on the left…
“Those restrictions will have to lessen a bit once the season starts because”
- (drumroll)
“under NFL mandate coordinators must be made available to speak to the media.”
- uh oh! - (Cue Karl Malden) “what will you do? What WILL you do? Carry the Arrowhead ‘Express Permission’ Card, don’t let your co-ordinator’s speak without it!”
while looking up the chiefs new offensive line coach, I found this funny quote of him complaining about the new,young Tampa coach (who is 32). Now he is working for a coach who is 42 (haley) but still considered ‘young’
https://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=5897
Raheem Morris, when they take a kid 32 years old, and he’s never been a coordinator. …And that’s who’s going to be a head coach at 32? He better be really good.
Muir:
“I would have to say to you I think the whole NFL is upside down in their process of selecting coaches. I’m not just saying that because I’m old or jealous. I just think in my opinion you have to have a little bit more background to be a head coach. The NFL is a copycat league. ..Some of the owners have looked at Mike Tomlin, at Harbaugh, and they say maybe these guys relate better with the players. I think that’s the case with Raheem. The defensive players rallied around him. …He’s very … charismatic, effervescent. He’s got a good football base, too. … He was obviously a popular choice to be the defensive coordinator. Jon made that decision. …One of the reasons Jon liked Raheem, there was going to be a lot of reciprocal philosophy. Raheem was receptive to some input. … (Muir went on to say that Raheem interviewing with Denver immediately after being named coordinator sparked the Glazers interest in him as head coach.)
Fantastic article Bob. I really like this coaching staff that Haley put together. He really was at a disadvantage what with the late start he got off to. I’d say he found some gems despite the fact that a lot of other guys had settled in elsewhere.
It will be interesting to see how good Raheem Morris is. He’s extremely likable in interviews and seems to be a very smart individual, but he is a 32 year old who has no experience whatsoever being a top coach at this level. We’ll see…..
Thanks Bob
“EAGLES – signed second-round draft choice RB LeSean McCoy.”
If teams are signing their players, we can start hoping/expecting to see ours signed too. Thanks BobGretz for doing a great job in this slow period before Camp.
SG Yes that is what if anything has me wondering about our G.M. I don’t have much info on his signing ability time well tell. Well he be like our old G.M. that seem time didn’t matter. That being said print seems to say he has a better relationship with agents then Carl. Iam sure this well get a response from some that doesn’t have anything good to say about the New Chiefs. Yes the old G.M. started doing a better job of signing since Weepy Dick as he likes to call him.
Scott - Absolutely, the Chiefs need to be able to run the ball successfully this season. I think they will. They have a good group of backs (wish Smith was healthy, but it could be a breakout year for Charles).
I also think the O-line has the potential to be a good run-blocking unit. Goff is a good addition, and McIntosh played better towards the end of last season (still a problem in pass protection, though).
I was watching NFL Replay this past weekend and was reminded of the Jamaal Charles pass play against the Fins last season where McIntosh pancaked two defenders downfield. He can be a formidable blocker.
On the subject of media relations: It’s not as if limiting media access to players and assistant coaches is exclusively a Belicheck/Parcells philosophy. Many coaches (e.g., Bill Walsh) believe(d) in the practice.
Steve Spanguolo (a talented guy who I was hoping would be the next Chiefs HC) is doing pretty much the same thing with the Rams, and, of course, the media in St. Louis doesn’t like it. I heard one sports radio guy say “We didn’t need closed practices the year we won the Super Bowl”; of course they also didn’t have new coaching staff trying to turn around a 2-14 team that season.
It’s perfectly reasonable to limit media access to coaches and players until everyone has gotten to know each other and understands the “company line”, as it were. Internal cohesion is more important than media relations at this point.
Great insight Bob.
Everyone else - nice work not replying to the above.
Sorry guys - I have to do this.
“The transition from college to the NFL has been the toughest part. College was laid back, but here everything is up tempo…” (Q-Lawrence quote from another site)
I didn’t know QL was part of Herm’s practices last year! LOL - does this count as 4 now who have made feedback about certain subjects?
Nice mix of old and young so it ought to be fun watching the Team improve. Several of them have their work cut out for them so let’s hope their message sinks in with all the players.
SG says:
“I didn’t know QL was part of Herm’s practices last year! LOL”
Good one, SG.
And since Herm coached a college team last year…wouldn’t that make several of “his” players Rookies THIS year?
The Chiefs may have, what many sports analysts consider a “Rag Tag pool of players”.
I think the Chiefs have a talented bunch of under achievers. ie… lot’s of talent, not yet challenged to be the best.
I’m confident after reading Bob’s article that this group of coaches have & will continue challenging these players daily. I’m talking from the newbies to the grizzled veterans.
I’m seriously believing that Chiefs Nation will be rewarded with a few more Exciting & Victorious Sunday afternoons this Fall.
ILChiefsFan makes a good point about McIntosh. He’s actually a pretty good run blocker. Although his pass protection is just average, he was learning a new position last year at RT. That can’t be an easy task, even for a veteran. I’m hoping he is an improved player this season. Even if he isn’t, Herb Taylor has held his own before and Richardson and Brown are massive RT types. Here’s to hoping we can run the ball well! Plus, Bill Muir is a solid offensive line coach who has been around forever and probably knows all the tricks when it comes to getting the most out of his players.
“The further I’ve gone in this business the more I’ve recognized Bill Muir as being the top at his job in this league,” Haley said.
- ‘check’, you must travel in small circles - you just have to get out of the office nee beyond the vestibule and back 9 more often - remember, even ‘Supercuts’ doesn’t require an appointment.
Like Johnny Cash “I’ve been everywhere man” the guy’s been around as you say & if he understands the concept of “any 22″ as you do Rin is certain success will follow you both - and if not well… then your replacements shall.
‘check’, Jim McNally & Howard Mudd (former Chiefs Coach) are at the top Rin’s ‘best’ o-line coaches NFL…but as you regretted you did get that ‘late start’.
Chin up!
jimbo says:
“I think the Chiefs have a talented bunch of under achievers. ie… lot’s of talent, not yet challenged to be the best.”
Jimbo, I’ve kinda’ been thinking (and hoping) the same thing.
It’s pretty possible that Pioli and Haley think that, also. And maybe that’s why there were not more FA’s brought in…because I think those two guys are pretty good at evaluating talent.
Once you think about the Herm statement about being a college team its not as bad as it seemed at first being that everyone was straight outta college. If anyone has graduated from college you know your first year out isn’t all settled down… Plus the team was young so this year Im sure alot of them will be better for the experience they were given last year…
Rebuilding a team first requires building a strong foundation. The coaching staff I wouldn’t say is perfect, but it’s good place to start. There are sure to be bumps in the road, but that’s the only way you know who fits and who doesn’t.
It will be interesting to watch Haley and Chan this year. What I’m looking forward to is seeing how Haley and Chan separates themselves from Herm’s approach this year with the play calling. Again Herm played to not lose badly and in that he just lost 7 games by 7 points or less. I laugh when he says that. He makes it sound like an achievement or as if there was simply nothing he could do.
Well, Haley doesn’t bring that mentality. Coaching on a pro level requires you to approach the game like a pro.
Herm definitely belongs in College Football.
Go Chiefs!
Jorge,
Kinda’ makes Herm’s infamous “You play to WIN the game” rant all the more funny…when you think about it.
Because CLEARY, he didn’t.
I don’t know boys, I think were getting a little coach speak outta Haley here.
I desperately want Haley to succeed, but the Chiefs did have to settle with left overs, Thanks Jr for waiting until the last min to start his GM search
The wide receivers coach seems real shaky to me, considering the talent or lack their of. I would liked to have had a guy with a little experience.
Lets hope it works out.
anonymous says:
“I desperately want Haley to succeed, but the Chiefs did have to settle with left overs, Thanks Jr for waiting until the last min to start his GM search”
Huh? Leftovers?
How do you figure? Pioli was the most talked about, sought after GM this past off season. And we got him. Then, Pioli couldn’t talk to Haley until after the Super Bowl was over…but wrapped him up pretty quick afterwards.
I agree that circumstances gave us a late start…but “leftovers”? I can’t see that at all. Explain.
“I think Joe is another guy with very good experience”
- yes, he got said via his tutelage under Coach Herm Edwards these last few seasons, ‘check’…
“that”
- ‘is why you kept him around’, understood.
“too”
- wait- there’s more?
“has been around, in Canada and in colleges”
- an international man of intrigue or a matter not being able to keep a job - or just that he understands that “any 22″ thingy ‘concept’ you are going to revolutionize this football world with, ‘check’?
The thing is, no one outside yourself really believes it - let alone understands it…
I’m the Michael Jordan of motivating Michael Jordan!!
To rin by being the only one saying> Jr in ever blog you give it away . If you want to use many aliases you should change your style on the blog.The post it self had merit > in position coaches only.
I don’t find the comment by anonymous regarding the coaching staff to be all that controversial. “Leftovers” may be a harsh way to put it, but the Chiefs definitely were at the back of the buffet line.
The fact is that by the time the decision had been made to release Herm, the pool of available HC candidates was considerably reduced. If Haley was Pioli’s man all along that’s great, but guys like Spagnuolo, McDaniels (luckily), Ryan, and Schwartz never got interviewed.
Similarly, there’s no denying that some top-flight candidates for assistant coaching positions had been snatched up by the time Haley could start assembling a staff.
Maybe the Rams, Jets, Lions, et. al. overlooked some really tasty fried chicken in order to fill their plates with mediocre prime rib, but the fact is they got first choice, and the Chiefs chose from what was left.
/ducks and covers
Scott,
I cant speak accurately about Ast. Coaches, but it just seems obvious to me that if you start your search after every other team has hired theirs, you tend to to end up sucking hind teat. I don’t know for sure, but I bet there weren’t many, if any asst’s hired after KC filled their staff.
Here’s a follow up article on the one I posted the other day, about actual money spent by NFL teams over the last 5 years. This one shows how much actual money was spent per win.
Take a guess where you think the Chiefs came in at before scrolling down. I was a little surprised.
Team Wins Committed Cash Cost Per Win
1.) Patriots 63 512.31M 8.14 M
2.) Colts 63 532.77 M 8.44 M
3.) Chargers 54 485.46 M 8.99 M
4.) Steelers 56 516.69 M 9.22 M
5.) Broncos 47 485.40 M 10.37 M
6.) Giants 47 497.63 M 10.58 M
7.) Jaguars 45 480.06 M 10.66 M
8. ) Eagles 46 495.75 M 10.77 M
9.) Bears 45 495.57 M 11.01 M
10.) Packers 41 457.16 M 11.15 M
11.) Panthers 45 516.09 M 11.46 M
12.) Ravens 44 507.05 M 11.52 M
13.) Titans 40 465.28 M 11.63 M
14.) Bucs 38 449.00 M 11.81 M
15.) Seahawks 45 552.42 M 12.27 M
16.) Falcons 41 493.07 M 12.07 M
17.) Cowboys 46 566.89 M 12.32 M
18.) Vikings 41 526.87 M 12.85 M
19.) Bengals 38 491.05 M 12.92 M
20.) Jets 37 502.53 M 13.58 M
21.) Bills 35 483.71 M 13.82 M
22.) Chiefs 32 451.58 M 14.11 M
23.) Saints 36 518.49 M 14.40 M
24.) Redskins 38 547.37 M 14.40 M
25.) Cardinals 34 505.30 M 14.86 M
26.) Dolphins 31 500.56 M 16.14 M
27.) Texans 31 522.23 M 16.84 M
28.) Browns 28 506.43 M 18.08 M
29.) Rams 27 502.08 M 18.59 M
30.) 49ers 25 486. 40 M 19.45 M
31.) Lions 21 505.04 M 24.04 M
32.) Raiders 20 513.21 M 25.66 M
Here is the link
https://blogs.nfl.com/2009/06/29/more-moneyball-the-economics-of-wins-and-losses/
I’m the Michael Jordan of motivating Michael Jordan!!!
ILChiefsFan,
There ya go! You said what I tried too, I’m horrible with names, and you nailed em.
I just remember lots of discussions on this forum every time one of the big names were off the market, and the Chiefs were still working out details with the Pioli hire.
“/ducks and covers…”
Flamethrower Scott…use the flamethrower!
I expect Scott to use the Nuclear Option.
“…infamous “You play to WIN the game” rant all the more funny…”
A believer in moral victories perhaps?
“I desperately want Haley to succeed”
- give that man a Pabst Blue Ribbon for honesty if not resolve nor confidence!
And now, FEAR television presents Humphrey Bogart starring in “The Desperate Hours!” our late night movie here on ‘Channel any, 22′.
Cue a paraphrased James Taylor - “You Need Him Friend”
When you’re new and clueless
And you need a lineman yeah
And he won’t, no he won’t kiss your behind.
Close your eyes and think of he
Pray soon he will be there
To toughen up your slow and flimsy line
You just call out Brian’s name,
And you know wherever he is
You’ll go runnin’, oh yeah baby
Team needs him again.
Winter, spring, summer, or fall,
All you have to do is crawl
And he’ll be there, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You need him, friend.
When destruction lays afore you
Losses mount you’re in the dumps
And those any 22s, seem to be all but shot
Keep your team together, call Brian’s name out loud
And soon he’ll be knocking upon your door.
You just call out his name and you know where ever he is
You’ll go running, plead “need you” again.
Winter, spring, summer or fall
All you got to do is crawl
And you’ll be there, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, ain’t it tough to swallow you need a friend?
When “comes around’s” be so cold.
It’ll serve you - right - yeah & hurt you.
It may take your team away from you
So, have duffer woods ready…
You just call out his name and you know wherever he is
You’ll go runnin’ to see him again.
Oh - ‘check’ - don’t you know that,
Winter spring summer or fall,
Hey now, all you’ve got to do is crawl.
Brian he’ll be there, yes he will.
You need him, friend.
You need him, friend.
Aint it tough to swallow, you need him friend.
Aint it tough to swallow, you need him friend
You need him, friend!
Any over/under on how many of the assistants mentioned here will be there in Year 2? How many will go to other teams for better career options in their minds? How many will be advised that relocation would be a wise option?
Ha ha! No weapons from me, guys.
I don’t know…I think we got the best of the best in Pioli. And I think he had Haley in mind the whole way. Which may or may not be the case, of course. I’m sure he’ll never tell us!
Then, Haley brought in “his” guys…half of them from Arizona (it seems) and a few holdovers. I’m not sure who he might have brought in differently if he had his “pick of the litter”, so to speak. For better or worse…I’m not so sure his choices would have been much different. Again though, we’ll likely never know.
It will be interesting, assuming that Haley is successful…how he will “tweak” his staff over the next few years. With basically a whole new staff put together…there’s likely to be a piece or two of the puzzle that doesn’t quite fit. Who will stay…and who will go? And will Gailey be offered a Head Coaching position again after this year? Especially if he engineers a successful offense.
Chiefs sign C. Brown!
Scott,
Nice Recovery.
With the number of coaches Bob cited above as “7,” I’ll project that over/under number as “2.” That will simply be based on the fact that other teams will fire coaches and will find one or two Chiefs coaches who look like they have potential and take them from our team’s staff.
“assuming that Haley is successful”
- makes an *** out of you & he…heh heh heh
Here’s a question for you guys…
Drew Rosenhaus claims there are “5 team interested in Plaxico Burress”. Do you think there’s any possibility AT ALL that KC is one of them? And would you WANT him on our team?
My first reaction would be “no”. But, most of his teammates from the Giants have been vocally supportive of him…and say they would like him back. And as bad as we need a killer receiver…???
Rin says:
“- makes an *** out of you & he”
While you make one out of yourself.
Sorry guys…that one was just too easy to pass up.
Scott,
I’m sure there’d be quite a few players that would say they’d like to play with Mike too, but what are the chances of that happening.
For that matter, I’d rather have a Mike Vick on my team that should surely have seen the error of his ways by now than Plax. Nothing against Burress as a player, but he doesn’t seem to have “gotten it” yet. The last thing we need on our team as we trasition to yet another HC and system is someone that can’t seem to stay out of trouble, no matter what his intentions are/were.
If we’re talking about picking up that missing WR tallent, I’m still holding out hope against hope we could pull off some kind of deal for Q Boldin. It wouldn’t take him long to catch on to the system, and he’d need some reps with Cassell, like they all still do.
I’d like to see Boldin here, too. Difference is…Plax is a free agent, and Boldin would cost us big to trade for.
Scott…I agree with the possibility of Gailey taking a walk back to a HC job. I also believe that Pendergast is only a fill in for this year. Unless of course he does a good job. His hybrid of 3-4 and 4-3 will hopefully work due to the majority of our defense is geared for a 4-3. I think they would have rather had Romeo Crennel instead.
I also agree with whomever commented about the running backs coach and LJ. A fire must be lit under his ass. Larry needs to be able to catch a pass in the flat. He has had a few receptions that were nice, but opposing offenses seem to key on him as only a runner. He’s not very good with pass protection or recieving ability. Jamaal Charles helps in that area, but it would be nice to have another option on obvious passing downs. That needs to change for him to salvage the season and his career.
As far as Raheem Morris…reminds me of another coach that was never a coordinator. Great with the players, because he could relate with them. Anyone know who I’m talking about???
I’ll give you a hint…he coach’s to lose the game.
By ’special’ (he is) request, dedicated to Scott -
2,3, 4
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Before I hear it from the Peanut Gallery….I meant to say opposing defenses when talking about Mr. Johanson.
Yes, but Burress probably won’t play the first half of the season.
Either would definately be an instant impact player, so it boils down to availability and cost. Realisticaly, neither have much of a chance to play for the Red and Gold, but they’d both look good catching tosses in the end zone for us.
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Every-time I see heh heh heh I think of the late Michael Jackson heh heh heh & Chance is not my son.
[cough* 'check' cough*]…there, that’s better
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Great point Scott. All the assistants have a Pioli, Bellichek, Haley or Parcells connection in some way, and that was not going to change because of time constraints. Haley was Pioli’s guy, no matter who was avaialable, IMO. I think this would have pretty much been the staff that Haley picked, even if Zona didn’t delay things by winning. The only Coach he probably wanted that he didn’t get was Crennel, and that was due to Romeo’s health. Depending on the D’s performance, that may be revisited next year.
right…’check’
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