Waters Still Runs Deep … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs

It happened during the Chiefs first practice of training camp in Wisconsin.

Brian Waters had worked very hard in the weeks leading up to the late July start of camp to get into the type of physical shape desired by head coach Todd Haley.

Waters was dueling with one of the Chiefs defensive linemen in a drill when he twisted his left foot and ankle. He didn’t just sprain it; he really ripped it up. There were torn ligaments on the left side of his foot at his ankle. Waters had turned the ankle completely over, to the point where his ankle touched the ground on the twist.

Trainers walked Waters off the field that day. But he was back to practice within 24 hours. While some of his workload was scaled back, he didn’t miss a practice. Not in camp, or not during the season, even though at least twice he twisted the ankle again. Only when he pulled a hamstring late in the year did Waters not practice.

Even as he put the cap on the Chiefs 2009 season, the ankle and foot were still sore, still a bother.

After everything that happened with Waters before training camp even started, why did he practice every day? Why didn’t he take some time off and let it heal?

“Pride,” Waters said. “I wanted to be out there. It was something I could deal with most of the time.”

That he was available every day was a badge of honor with Haley.

“There are a lot of guys who wouldn’t be able to play, let alone practice with that injury,” Haley said. “He earned everyone’s respect.”

Especially that of the head coach. Reportedly the first meeting between Haley and Waters did not go well. That’s the time when supposedly Haley told Waters he could win two games with 22 guys off the street. Neither Haley nor Waters have ever confirmed that moment actually took place, but it’s now part of the urban legend of the Chiefs and is perceived as fact.

There’s no doubt there was a disconnect between the most tenured Chiefs player and the new regime. Waters chose to say home in Texas rather than take part in the off-season conditioning program or OTA sessions. He attended the team’s mandatory mini-camp and no more.

But very quickly, Haley and his staff found out Waters was their kind of guy. He was available, dependable and tough, both physically and mentally.

“Everyone had to get used to one another,” Waters said. “There was a longer feeling out period than normal. But all and all we grew to accept one another’s talents and abilities to do what we do. ”

So how does Waters feel Haley handled himself and his team in his first season as a head coach?

“I think he did all right, under the circumstances,” said Waters. “I think we’ve all learned throughout this process.”

It was a mixed bag in ‘09 with the Chiefs offense, and it all started with the decision to fire Chan Gailey as the coordinator and Haley basically revamping the whole offensive plan and attack

“It affected us greatly,” Waters said of all the changes. “We would be lying to ourselves if changing the offense two weeks before the season started didn’t harm what we had already gotten going. That’s the head coach’s prerogative and as players, we need to do our job no matter the changes that are made.”

The offensive line was a mixed bag all season, struggling at times, but coming together as the season reached the final month

“It was definitely a season of some ups and downs, but some growth,” Waters said of the Chiefs offensive line. “We became a little more familiar with each other as the season wore on. ”

In fact, Waters thinks there’s been too much negative light falling on the Chiefs blocking unit.

“I think some of the eyes that have been judging my teammates are unqualified eyes,” said Waters said. “A number of my teammates have taken unfair criticism.”

So why has there been obvious improvement in the production of the offense line, with the rushing numbers up and the sacks down.

“We finally got comfortable in what we were trying to do,” he said. “The idea of what we want to do from game to game has changed a lot and I think we’ve settled on this is who we are”

And there was the breakthrough half-season of Jamaal Charles, who has impressed everyone especially the guys blocking for him.

“I don’t think I’ve played with anybody as talented as he is, with the explosive ability that he has,” Waters said of Charles. “With him there is the possibility that a five-yard run can become a 50-yard run. He still has a long way to go.

“I know people are going to hold him up to be the next great thing. He’s a young running back and he has a ways to go before he’s a complete back that we can count on for 16 games. That’s something he has to work on this off-season to take it to the next level.

“He’s what we want to get to, that type of speed, that type of explosiveness. We want to be a more explosive group. He’s the prototype that we are looking for, guys that can make a small play into a big play.”

THE SCHEDULE FOR THE 2010 PLAYOFFS

Saturday, Jan. 9 – New York Jets at Cincinnati, 3:30 p.m. on NBC; Philadelphia at Dallas, 7 p.m. on NBC.

Sunday, Jan. 10 – Baltimore at New England, noon on CBS; Green Bay at Arizona, NBC

Saturday, Jan. 16 – Saints host Cardinals/Packers/Eagles at 3:30 p.m. FOX. Colts host Bengals/Jets/Ravens at 7:15 p.m. on CBS.

Sunday, Jan. 17 – Vikings will host Cowboys/Cardinals/Packers at noon on FOX. Chargers host Patriots/Bengals/Jets. CBS.

SIGNINGS, INJURIES, FIRINGS & MOVEMENT ARND THE LEAGUE

  • BENGALS – placed DT Pat Sims on the injured-reserve list (forearm); signed CB Keiwan Ratliff.
  • BILLS – have fired their entire coaching staff.
  • CHIEFS – signed five reserve/future free agents: CB Jackie Bates, DE Bobby Greenwood, OL Jermail Porter, WR Chandler Williams and RB Kestahn Moore.
  • GIANTS – fired defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan.

FROM THE PAGES OF CHIEFS HISTORY

On January 5, 1991, the Chiefs fell to the Miami Dolphins 17-16 in an AFC Wild Card Game in the 1990 NFL playoffs. The Chiefs jumped to a 3-0 lead and actually held the advantage at half time 10-3 and at 16-3 after three quarters. The Chiefs touchdown came on a 26-yard pass from QB Steve DeBerg to WR Stephone Paige. K Nick Lowery hit three FGs. But the fourth quarter belonged to Dan Marino and the Dolphins, as he completed touchdown passes of one yard to FB Tony Paige and 12 yards to WR Mark Clayton. The last TD pass came with three minutes, 28 seconds to play. Stephone Paige had eight catches for 142 yards, while RB Christian Okoye ran 13 times for 83 yards. DE Neil Smith had a pair of sacks. A 52-yard field-goal attempt by Lowery was short at the end of the game. It would have give the Chiefs the victory

On January 5, 1992, the Chiefs were smashed by the Buffalo Bills 37-14 in a Divisional Game in the 1991 AFC Playoffs. Some 80,182 fans filled Rich Stadium in Orchard Park, New York and watched their Bills jump out to a 17-0 half-time lead and controlled the rest of the game. The Chiefs got touchdowns in the third and fourth quarters, as RB Barry Word ran for three yards and QB Mark Vlasic hooked up with WR Fred Jones on a 20-yard TD pass. The Chiefs managed just 213 offensive yards and turned the ball over on four Vlasic interceptions. The KC Defense got three interceptions of Buffalo QB Jim Kelly, as LB Lonnie Marts, S Deron Cherry and CB Eric Everett got the picks. LB Derrick Thomas had a sack. Bills RB Thurman Thomas ran for 100 yards and WR Andre Reed caught four passes for 100 yards.

SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY …

Born on January 5, 1938 in Schulenburg, Texas was LB Emil Joe Holub (left), otherwise known as E.J. or by his college nickname, “The Beast.” The Dallas Texans selected him in the first round of the 1961 AFL Draft out of Texas Tech University. Holub played 10 seasons for the Texans-Chiefs (1961-70), appearing in 127 games. In his first seven seasons he played at linebacker and then finished his career with three years as a center. He was selected to p lay in five AFL All-Star games. Holub was selected for the Chiefs Hall of Fame in 1976 and the College Football hall of Fame in 1986.

Born on January 5, 1957 in Enid, Oklahoma was QB Steve Fuller. He was selected in the first round of the 1979 NFL Draft out of Clemson University. Fuller played four seasons with the Chiefs (1979-82), appearing in 52 games with 31 starts. In those starts, the team’s record was 13-18. Throwing the ball he completed 465 of his 817 passes for 5,333 yards, with 22 TD passes and 32 interceptions. Fuller was a mobile quarterback and ran 139 times for 712 yards and five touchdowns. He left the Chiefs after the ‘82 season and by ‘84 he signed with the Chicago Bears, where he played three seasons.

Born on January 5, 1958 in Shawnee, Oklahoma was OT Roger Taylor. He was selected by the Chiefs in the third round of the 1981 NFL Draft out of Oklahoma State. Taylor played in just that rookie season with the Chiefs, appearing in 13 games. It was his only taste of NFL action.

Born on January 5, 1967 in Dallas, Texas was CB Ray Crockett. He joined the Chiefs as a veteran free agent before the 2001 season. Crockett spent two seasons with the Chiefs (2001-02), appearing in 29 games with 27 starting assignments. He had three interceptions. Overall, Crockett played 14 NFL seasons, with 214 games and 36 interceptions.


27 Responses to “Waters Still Runs Deep … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs”

  • January 5, 2010  - The Morning Fix | Arrowhead Addict | A Kansas City Chiefs blog says:

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  • January 5, 2010  - ED says:

    Good stuff from Waters. IF Chiefs can improve the offensive line in the offseason ,add some explosive weapons at receiver, and add another Outside linebacker that can rush the passer we can definately win a bunch of games in 2010. The schedule is much weaker than last yr having to face the NFC west and AFC south. Even though the AFC south is a tough division to have to face the Jags and Texans are beatable. NOt to mention we play the Browns and Bills again as part of the non diviison teams we play. Its all about what Pioli and the scouting department do in the offseason to improve the overall talent of the roster at those key positions.


  • January 5, 2010  - el cid says:

    Still waiting to hear if there will be coaching changes with the Chiefs. As of today, not sure there will be any. Many want Haley to have time to put his plan going…..so…..why not his coaches. I do not agree with it but can see where it can be said by the Chiefs, that the coaching staff need to evaluate what they had in 09 and will do better in 2010. Then I think of all those old raider coaches who passed thru here and did nothing and gag a little.


  • January 5, 2010  - Mad Chief says:

    el cid,

    I think we’ll see some coaching staff changes in the coming days/weeks. It takes a little time to identify and interview guys you’re interested in. As long as they get the right ones this time…I don’t care if they take a little time. But, I want the best guys available…not just the best of what’s left, like Haley had to choose from last year.

    Personally I’d like to see an OC, a new DC, QB coach, and for Krumrie to be replaced as the D-line coach. I could live with that.


  • January 5, 2010  - jimbo says:

    I’m still impressed by Waters. He plays well, is dependable, knows when to keep his mouth shut & has clearly displayed that he’s a “stand up” guy.
    A big guy like that, bad ankle & all. Kudos Mr. Waters. Damn glad having you in KC.
    Go Chiefs.


  • January 5, 2010  - Mark says:

    Brian has been a great Chief, but his play has declined so much, he’s totally done. That’s why he’s eating humble pie now, trying to save his job. If he’s starting next year, the OL still won’t be where it needs to be. After the bum Goff went down, waters was our worst Guard. Wade Smith and Aleman played better.


  • January 5, 2010  - TimR says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Waters moved to C to extend his career a year or two while other young bucks take over at G & we find a C to take us into the future.

    I certainly hope we get a different D-line coach.


  • January 5, 2010  - Mark says:

    I keep seeing the suggestion to move waters to center. Why would he not be as done at center as he is at guard?
    Krumrie was one of the best Coaches on the staff. I hope he keeps his job. Clancy and Gibbs, not so much.


  • January 5, 2010  - Alexthe"GREAT" says:

    Krumrie 1 of the best coachs on the staff…..thats it, time 2 go kill myself!


  • January 5, 2010  - Mad Chief says:

    Mark says:

    “Krumrie was one of the best Coaches on the staff. I hope he keeps his job.”

    If he’s so good…then why does our D-line continue to suck? It’s not like we haven’t had high draft picks for him to work with.

    Yes, I disagree with you completely. I was just looking for your reasoning as to what makes him “one of the best”?


  • January 5, 2010  - TailgateCouch says:

    I sure do respect BW, but wouldn’t it have been better to take a week or two off during training camp to let the ankle heal… Maybe a coach or training staff should have made that decision for him.


  • January 5, 2010  - Mad Chief says:

    Moot point now on Krumrie. He was fired.


  • January 5, 2010  - gorillafan says:

    MARK,
    What makes you think a guard can play center. You need to be good at hicking the ball, esp when the qb is not under center.

    I agree with ya though on waters, he had alot of penalties, slow when pulling, and i seen him miss a bunch of blocks, well atleast some blocks. I thought waters needed to to, but if his ankle was bothering him all season, than i say keep him for next year.

    side note: I like o’callahans play, I think he needs to stay as well.


  • January 5, 2010  - TimR says:

    Mark,

    Waters might prolong a bit at C because he might not have to cover as much ground as a C. There’s nothing wrong with his strength, intelligence or determination. He merely may not be as quick or agile for what many schemes ask their Gs to do.


  • January 5, 2010  - Mark says:

    He was this year. Dorsey improved by leaps and bounds, T-Jax improved as the season wound down, Gilberry improved big time, as did Magee. Krumrie deserves to be kept.


  • January 5, 2010  - Mad Chief says:

    Too late, Mark. See my post 4 up. Krumrie was fired today.


  • January 5, 2010  - Mark says:

    Too bad. He didn’t deserve to be, IMO. Any other moves/firings?


  • January 5, 2010  - Mad Chief says:

    Not yet. But, I’d say they’re coming.


  • January 5, 2010  - el cid says:

    Odd, isn’t it, that DL coach gets fired and DC does not?? Pendergast is quoted that his job is safe for now. It seem to me if Crennel was the next DC, he might want to hire his own DL coach. Should know more tomorrow, Haley will have a press conference and I am sure someone will ask if Pendergast is still around.

    Mad Chief, ED, RickyP, is replacing DL coach enough for you? Not saying there will not be others, just is that firing enough for you??


  • January 5, 2010  - Mark says:

    Is Clancy safe as DC of the Chiefs, or just a staff Coach for the Chiefs??


  • January 5, 2010  - Mad Chief says:

    No, el cid…replacing only Krumrie is not enough. Just my opinion, though. It’s a good start, though. If it was me? He would have been the first to go, too.

    Doesn’t mean he’s a bad guy or a bad coach. He just hasn’t been getting it done the last few years. Or, his players haven’t. Either way, it’s ultimately on the coach. He’ll be fine. He’s a talented guy…and I’d be shocked if he’s unemployed for very long. I just think it was his time to go. Actually, past time imo.

    My feeling is that Clancy’s job is “safe”…as in he’ll have a job with the Chiefs, if he chooses to stay. It just won’t be as DC. I could be wrong, though.


  • January 5, 2010  - el cid says:

    How the coaching changes play out will say a lot about the Chiefs. I doubt the fans will be investing into them, we had our fill of Vermeil/Robinson staffs. Haley/Pendergast is a bad mix as far as I am concerned. We will see.


  • January 5, 2010  - David Henderson says:

    I was just wondering where you seen that he was fired?


  • January 5, 2010  - el cid says:

    NFL network are reporting on DL coach.


  • January 5, 2010  - Scott D says:

    Listened to Waters’ interview on kcchiefs.com this morning. What a class guy. I wish every young guy could spend a few weeks with this guy and learn what the word, “maturity” means. Yeah, he had a bad intro to the new coach (and I think Haley was dumb to say what he did, if in fact he did)but Waters never let it get out of hand. The only person who kept harping on it was Whitlock, and nobody really cares what he says. Anyway, I hope the Chiefs find a way to use him even if his skills aren’t what they were a couple of years ago – you can’t have too many class guys in your organziation.

    As far as Krumrie is concerned, it is obvious that something new needs to be tried. The 3-4 was a change for him too, and I think we need somebody with more experience coaching that scheme. Eight months and counting, right? Go Chiefs!!!


  • January 5, 2010  - Mad Chief says:

    David,

    https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/1/5/1235253/report-chiefs-fire-dl-coach-tim


  • January 6, 2010  - Justin Foote says:

    Brian Waters can play center because he’s played it before. He has also played tight end, although he couldn’t now. I think they would have to make the change fairly early, so he could knock all the rust off of his snapping ability, but I think he would be a good center. Maybe Neiswanger would make a better guard. Albert would also probably make a better guard. Could the 2010 season’s O line look like this? 1stRdDraftPic/Albert/Waters/Neiswanger/Ocallahan


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