A Gallant Effort In Overtime Defeat

i cant beleive how bad miles austin made us look, that kind of performance is unacceptible in the nfl, i didnt catch who the jackass was who missed that tackle in overtime but their is no way in hell you can be that freakn lazzy in the nfl, 2 times a guy got punked out for a big ass play. and what the hell is with the way our oline didnt even stand up on that field goal try i seen the replay the line just stayed bent over like they was waiting for a cowboy raping that we got once again lazy if anybody else understands why they stayed bent over like a bunch of gay greek statues pleas let me know cause if your trying to keep the other team from blocking your field goal maybe you shouldnt stay bent over so the d can leap frog your ass like a 3rd grader maybe you should like extends your arms or make an effort and im sorry but haleys play calling was reallly horrible again this week stupid stupid stupid.

I could only hear the game on radio and there was one point were we made a reception for 9 yards or something like that and it was going to be 2nd and 1 but there was a 5 yard penalty against the Cowboys. We accepted the penalty for a first down. I thought that was incredibly stupid. We only needed one more yard to make a first and it would have been only 2nd down but we decided to go back 4 yards for a automatic first. That is real dumb in my book. It shows how pathetic our running game is if we have no confidence that we can run for one yard. Our O’line needs to be overhauled as soon as possible.

That Anonymous post was mine above.

I can’t believe how bad Miles Austin made MIKE BROWN look. The angles Brown took on both of those long catch & run plays were an embarrassment.

Brown has been a major let-down, as far as I’m concerned. It appears he is no longer an NFL starting safety. I’d like to see DeJuan Morgan on the field next week.

You want to know how bad it is? I think Lions fans are pitying us.

Didn’t you guys see anything good? The defensive line got a few good pushes. Cassel showed poise with NO protection to speak of. The Chiefs scored ten points off of turnovers.

It’s so easy to criticize. Yes, Leggitt got burned twice for the go ahead and game-winning touchdowns. Yes, Brown looked lost out there. Yes, that offensive line is atrocious. WE ALREADY KNEW THESE THINGS! We’ve only played one team this season that isn’t a playoff caliber team and we’ve only been blown out of the stadium once.
This team, for as little talent as it collectively has, plays its guts out week in and week out. Be proud of that. Be proud that this team, whom everyone wrote off in JULY hasn’t packed it in. They WANT to win. Haley wants to win. Clark Hunt wants to win. Scott Pioli wants to win. The question to you nay-saying “fans” is, do you? Be a fan. Love this team. Appreciate the fact that Kansas City has a team to call its own. Yes, it sucks to lose. I hate it. I hate it more than anything. Doing the walk of shame after the Raiders game was almost unbearable. But what good does it do to sit and talk about how bad Haley is at coaching or how “done” LJ is or how the o-line couldn’t keep a junior high d-line from the QB? Why focus on those things? Love your team. Be a fan.

Well put Josh. I agree with you. Despite the mistakes, I saw a team that did not give up.

Thanks, md554chiefs.

I’m just as frustrated as everyone else…but I DID see some good things yesterday!

The two plays that beat us came from our own player, it was do to our Safty Brown. Yes it was Leggitt’s man to cover and he did, he didnt get beat, he got over powered by Austin but at least Leggitt was in on the play and slowed Miles down just long enough for more help to arrive and that’s where LOSER Brown shows up and didn’t do a damn thing. It was the Safty’s job to come and supply finishing touch/help on both of those plays and it was Brown who let them get away for the long yards & score after the catch. Brown had the wrong angle and got beat on the first one and then was stiff armed out of the play like a school boy on the second one. He alone has cost a few big plays the last several games if u go back and watch the tape, from being out of position or just lost out there to being just flat out beat. Haley errored in letting Pollard go.

I understand your points, Josh. However, I have followed this team closely for a long, long time. I think that gives me the right to bitch about the things I see going wrong. I fail to see how that makes me any less of a fan than anyone else.

Just a few observations:

-The Chiefs defensive players have had problems tackling for years. Players have come and gone, coaches have come and gone…but the problem seems to remain. I simply cannot understand it. Everyone misses a tackle now and then, even the best players. But they don’t do it on a consistant basis like our team does. Is it something about our uniform? I’m completely lost on this.

-These running plays to LJ for a loss, no gain, or a yard or two, 20+ times a game has got to stop. In five games now, he has shown little, if any, ability to gain positive yardage. When he gets the ball, it’s basically a wasted play. Poor blocking or not, a running back should be able to gain some yardage at least part of the time. LJ has shown nothing so far. He’s had more than a fair chance. It’s time to see what Charles, Savage, or Battle can do with the bulk of the carries. I can’t imagine any one of those three doing any worse.

-Albert was getting smoked on almost every play yesterday. I thought he was supposed to be our best O-lineman? Waters has not shown much this year, either. Except a new ability to draw the yellow flag.

-Blocking and tackling are probably the two most basic fundamental skills in football. Until this team can learn to do both of those things consistantly, they will continue to struggle.

-Football games are 60 minutes long. Unless you’re one of the “elite” teams, you have to get it done for all 60 minutes to win. Dallas played the whole 60 minutes yesterday. The Chiefs didn’t. In fact, I can’t even remember the last time this team DID play the entire game. It’s been years.

I still think the Chiefs are headed in the right direction…and that we’ll get there eventually. But, they have a LONG way to go.

Mad Chief,

My point was to ask you to look and see if you saw anything positive yesterday. Did you?

MenInRed,

If Haley made such a huge mistake in letting Pollard go, how come he sat at home on the couch while other free agent safeties went to other teams? Brown may not be the answer, but I’m positive Pollard wasn’t either.

Josh says:

“My point was to ask you to look and see if you saw anything positive yesterday. Did you?”

Yes, I saw a couple.

-Cassel is emerging as a leader. His play needs to improve, though. He still had several series that he looked flat. But guys are starting to look at him as the leader of the team. That distinction has to be earned, and I think he’s slowly gaining everyone’s respect.

-The Defense didn’t let the Cowboys run all over them.

-The receivers looked better yesterday. Not great, but better.

I think someone in the locker room is causing a cancer that keeping some player’s from doing their best .
Josh McDaniels is getting a lot out his guy’s and Todd has better talent .
There’s something wrong and I think it’s comming from inside the team .
Like on the phone , talking trash and being the bad apple ———

I don’t think this is Todd’s fault , but there is something wrong somewhere , because there is too much low peformance out of high end talent .
What’s up ?

Jim Lloyd+ says:

“Josh McDaniels is getting a lot out his guy’s and Todd has better talent .”

I completely disagree that the Chiefs have better talent than Denver. Completely disagree.

You may be rght and ther was an article at Arrowhead Pride about Larry Johnson .

Mad Chief
My point is exactly what you are saying ,DO to the fact that we are NOT see the best part of what’s here because of underlying promblem’s .
Your right > 100% .

Jim,

I personally believe the “cancer” to which you refer is LOSING. There are a lot of guys on our roster that haven’t won more than a handful of games in their entire NFL careers. It’s a hard habit to break. You have to go into every game believing that you’re going to win. You have to have a winning attitude. It’s a mindset, and too many of our players simply don’t have it yet. Of course, actually winning a game would be a good place to start.

Leave LJ at home this week end and it might be a lot of help , then no one will be tempted to waste 30 % of play’s called zero result’s .

I thought Cassel looked better yesterday.
Most of LJ’s runs were up the middle and it was frustrating because when he ran a little outside he was getting yards. I would have liked to see them go away from the middle since they weren’t getting anywhere there.

Charles should not run back kicks anymore as he has poor judgment. I think it was the 1st return of the second half they kicked it in the corner. I think if he would have let it go it would have went out of bounds.

Donald Washington and Leggit sucked. Carr should have been in the whole time. Still again no more D.J. What is the coach thinking??? I’ll feel better in a couple days…

Scott C says:

“Charles should not run back kicks anymore as he has poor judgment. I think it was the 1st return of the second half they kicked it in the corner. I think if he would have let it go it would have went out of bounds.”

I agree. And Wade is no better on punt returns. Poor judgement and minimal return yardage. Our return game is absolutely dismal, period. Problem is, I don’t know who we have that would be any better.

Tyson Jackson 3 tackles in 5 games;Aaron Curry 32 tackles 2 sacks 2 forced fumbles…great pick Pioli!!! For the record LJ is not washed up Haley calls bad plays for the entire offense…Hey I think I was wrong about Cassel he could be a solid QB if he stops holding the ball 2 long, o-line played alot better pass blocking until we lost Albert. But Haley’s play calling is a joke atleast try 2 get LJ on the edge and let Cassel throw over the middle instead of swing passes and deep outs b/c we all know he’ll never have enough time for a deep out 2 develop!

Mad Chief says:

“I agree. And Wade is no better on punt returns. Poor judgement and minimal return yardage. Our return game is absolutely dismal, period. Problem is, I don’t know who we have that would be any better.”

I really think that they need to go back to Savage. Granted he didn’t look great in Phili, but who did? And against the Raiders he didn’t even have a chance to return ’cause SeaBas kept kickin it in the end zone. He’s a good runner and he still has the longest return beetween the 2 guys. But with Savage being inactive 2 weeks in a row who knows if he will ever get to come back.

Alex —-Good call for LJ , but he has made it perfectly clear he is NOT going to run those crossing routes that you get slammed on . WY ? Duu

hey i am a cheifs fan im just an honest cheifs fans and ive been one for a long time and im frustrated at the things that make no sense to me like why we still look as bad as we did last year i mean i no their are some positives but we still look like we dont know what were doin why dont we look like denver they got a new coach new qb and a new gm as well but their them and were us its just like its written in the stars that were always gonna be a bad team it just doesnt make sense like the play calling and the line staying bent over on a field goal try and numerous other thing its like were trying to lose

Josh, Pollard didn’t sit on the couch yesterday. He made six tackles (and got two assists) for the Texans. He made four (and got another assist) the week before against the Raiders.

Pollard may not be the guy Haley wanted… but he’s playing in the league.

Larry’s foot was broke and he was out for a year ,he’s not going to get hurt –NO one , REPEAT , NO one is going to trade for him , not even if you gave them two first round pick’s .
If I’m wrong , let’s hear it ?
Otherwise —–WAKE-UP – SO you CAN QUIT DREAMING

hey guys who do you think we should draft in april i say we draft ndamukung suh from nebraska guys a beast

Alexthe”GREAT” says:
“o-line played alot better pass blocking until we lost Albert.”

What game were you watching? It couldn’t have been the Chiefs game…because Albert was getting smoked on damn near every play.

“For the record LJ is not washed up”

Then he’s a wash-OUT. I don’t care what play is called. If the guy has the football in his hands 20+ times a game and can’t make anything happen, then he needs to watching from the sideline. Can Charles, Savage, or Battle do any better with that many touches a game? I have no idea…but I’m sure ready to find out.

BIG–HUGE ———-
ALL about LJ at Arrowhead Pride ,I’ll say it again ,DO NOT TAKE HIM TO WASHINGTON .

KC can WIN !!!!!!!!!

BUT the team has just so many plays and they have to cut this out –TRYING over and over to make some thing happen —————-

Pollard should have been kept, Brown isn’t the answer like he said in an interview earlier, he was brought into help the young guys… He wasn’t brought into start, Haley must not have heard the interview when he made him the starter.

alex the great stop KILLING alex’s around the world…

26 of 34 pass attempts he was hit…how is that good OL play adding in a 1.8 carry average for LJ

the truth it matt cassel is our only true star outside of a talented bowe/flowers and albert IF moved to guard…boy do I wish we had taken clady but of course herm wouldnt do that since we had big Mcintosh

LOL….Cassel is our only true star…ok….like agreat coach once said….”If u wanna crown his ass then crown him” but I dont see it…he may be solid at best.

Oh yeah, go and watch the tape. Alot of those hits were contributed 2 Cassell holding the ball way 2 long.

That last drive before Matt zipped it to the enzone .
OK ——–the question is , HOW LONG DID IT TAKE ALL TOGETHER ?
ANSWER ( someone? ) _________________________

Thank’s

I got a good feeling about this game! The passing game is on, which is going to lead to a more productive running game!

Memo to the P&H boys. Draft prioities for 2010: ‘

OG, LB, OT, OC, RB in about that order. More holes to fill than these but this is a start.

Untill they get a good line , there is not going to be much of a running game , no matter what .
The only time they did have some luck was when LJ was suppened and Tyler and Brodie ran a lot !

All said and done KC has only ONE star player ,and that’s # 50———

#50——Let’s see ,, OH that’ Mike Vrabel !

WHO ELSE ON THIS TEAM IS GOING TO THE HALL OF FAME .

Let’s make a list Jared,,,NO _ he’s gone
Tony,,,NO _ he’s gone
———> I’m out of names–help ?

Josh, I agree with you on the fact there must be some positives to come out of the game.
Unless we get pressure from the front seven we will consistently get smoked by good receivers. Also unless we get a good cohesive line thats played together for most of the season we will never have a good run game or time to pass with out getting hit.
I think now that the worst of the schedule is done we hopefully will see improvement each week as the team pulls together. I still believe that it’s not going to be a great improvement till after next years draft we we will get some really good talent brought in through the draft and free agents.

LOL… the same #50 that can’t cover a TE, yesterday he was getting abused by witten…

I can’t believe the chiefs defense is sorrier than it was last year giving up the most offensive yards.

Merwin your really optimistic that they (pioli/haley) will draft better then they had this year. I know its early to tell whether they are busts, but Jackson doesn’t look like he can compete with the tackles and guards that he is going up against right now, hopefully a full season in the league and he will learn something, but I dont know.

Also you can’t compare Aaron Curry to Tyson Jackson, they play two different positions, but curry is making some progress…

by the way though, I was calling for Everette Brown to be drafted and he has 1 sack, 3 tackles and a forced fumble in 4 games, so it doesn’t look like Jackson is to far off of some other players that were drafted at the DE position, Tyson has 3 tackles, albeit over 5 games and no sacks or forced fumbles…

Got to say:

Poor officiating, really bad television broadcast ( thought I was watching the DAL homers and the camera coverage was all DAL, notice last play must of been 20 cameras in enzone after the catch).

Dallas did not want the win but the Chiefs could not play well enough to do more than keep it close except for the last drive in regulation. Anyone else notice, in OT Chiefs returned to the 1st qtr tactics and forgot about their last drive?

Haley feels some good things happened and I do not doubt it. But the Chiefs cannot run the ball, LJ cannot fall forward for 2 yds. OL, injuries not withstanding, still stink. Backups on Def are substandard. Denver was better in 08 than KC, so their fix was easier but that does not help KC.

The Dallas game was like the Oakland one, the Chiefs should of won but did just enough to lose. Sorry but we may not be able to beat WASH. Losers find a way to lose. Somehow Haley must convince the players they can win.

Denver has a new QB, a new RB, a new defense, with a majority of new players on the defense, that’s really not saying its the same team that was there last year.

I think it’s quite possible that Haley came in with his yelling and berating players way of coaching and the players are not playing for him as hard as they could be.