Camp Practice Update 8/10 A.M.
From River Falls, Wisconsin
It was a mentally grinding practice for the Chiefs on Monday morning. Todd Haley put them through two hours plus of work and most of it dealt with special teams and situations.
The morning proved frustrating for the head coach.
“I want a mentally and physically tough team that is smart,” Haley said. “Specifically, situationally smart. The game these days is all situations. You are either coming out, you are in the red zone, you are in short yardage, you are in goal line, it’s end of the half, end of the game. The game is made up of a lot of situations and in order to be a smart team you have to know what’s going on. You have to understand the situations and you almost have to do it without coaches.
“Today was a lot less coaching to see what they know. There were a handful of them (players) who it was clear to me had not studied and stayed up on the situations. So yeah, I was upset about that.”
Haley’s verbal hammer fell on not only players but special teams coach Steve Hoffman. The head coach was especially upset when the team had what they call a “May Day” situation on a field goal. That’s where the game clock is running and the FG team has only seconds to line up and get off a kick. Haley explained the situation to the whole team,
But when it came time to kick, long snapper Tanner Purdum did not run on the field.
“I’d say that’s a problem,” Haley said afterwards. We won’t repeat what he said on the field because this is a family website.
Earlier, the Chiefs offense was in a situation where the clock was winding down and they needed a TD to win. They set up a hook and ladder type play, where a receiver catches the ball and then hands off to another receiver. Only the first time the offense ran the play, rookie RB Javarris Williams tried to hand off but WR Mark Bradley didn’t run the play and wasn’t there to take the handoff.
It was that kind of morning in the northwoods. Here’s more of what went down:
– Not working in the session were eight players: S DaJuan Morgan, LBs Zach Thomas, Demorrio Williams and Monty Beisel, RBs Jamaal Charles and Kolby Smith and Gs Wade Smith and Tavares Washington.
– In position drills the wide receivers were beaten up; staff members held pads and when the receiver was about to catch the ball, he was hit with these pads, sometimes two back-to-back, or high and low. It was a struggle for most of the WRs to hold onto the ball. Rookie Quinten Lawrence had the most problems, as several times he had alligator arms and didn’t fully reach for the pass because he knew he was about to get hit. Veterans Bobby Engram and Mark Bradley had troubles as well. Dwayne Bowe and Amani Toomer were the receivers who dropped the fewest passes while being smashed.
– Two ends of the veterans spectrum: OLB Mike Vrabel was talking and communicating all through a snap in a blitz period. Even as the ball was snapped, he was directing traffic. RG Mike Goff jumped early in the blitz period and had to take a penalty run.
– Offensive coordinator Chan Gailey and QB Matt Cassel had a long one-on-one conversation at the end of practice, and then they gathered up Lawrence and went back on the field and worked on several passing plays. Bradley eventually joined the group as well.
– Rookie DL Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee put in extra time after practice working against a one-man sled with D-Line coach Tim Krumrie.
Thanks ! Bob for the Chiefs Update
Hope Haley knocks some sense into these guys HA HA!
I think they’d better find a new long snapper, that kid doesn’t seem to be getting it
Well it hurts me to say I might……… I said I might have to agree with the dog on Lawrence. Seems the IQ on some of these millionaires could be in question.How can you play the game if you don’t understand it . Seems the wonder-ling test isn’t working .
Oh I didn’t see Dorsey name mentioned with the D -Line working after practice . Well I guess he feels he doesn’t need the work !!!!!!!!!
Dorey says…………What time do we EAT.
Something different – St. L. Rams literally have no WRs to begin the season. How about we trade Bowe for a 1st rounder? Nutz, ok, but we are rebuilding on a rebuild.
TM,
You’ve lost your marbles.
Sincerely,
All Chiefs fans
re: Haley’s comment:
“I want a mentally and physically tough team that is smart,” Haley said. “Specifically, situationally smart. The game these days is all situations. You are either coming out, you are in the red zone, you are in short yardage, you are in goal line, it’s end of the half, end of the game. The game is made up of a lot of situations and in order to be a smart team you have to know what’s going on. You have to understand the situations and you almost have to do it without coaches.
THE ABOVE would seem to suggest that Haley has been studying some of the concepts of Sun Tsu’s Art of War who is quoted:
“Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate. ”
And this:
“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.”
Haley, like Sun Tzu, is stressing the mental importance of victory which is a more telling factor than the physical effort exerted. The large question being asked and answered is the degree of mental capacity this team and individuals on it, possess. THAT could be the telling factor as to who makes it and who gets sent on down the road.
Yikes Bob!
This practice sounds like a “Murphy’s law” kind of practice. Haley is probably spitting nails about now.
There is alot of information & studying plays for this team to absorb & remember. I’m sure the rookies are having a tougher time than the vets.
Tanner has no excuse, I’m sure he will be in Haleys dog house for a while.
Anyhow, just another fiasco practice exposing things the team needs to work on. They must get better. Go Chiefs.
Real Rin ® daddy-o
“Haley had been visibly frustrated more than once during this morning’s practice.”
- as every rehearsal Chiefs – more so chronic than acute – CODE SACRE BLUE!
Ladies & gentlemen, your not ready for prime time 2009 Kansas City Chiefs… or, to paraphrase with a nod toward Ernest Lawrence Thayer:
“Oh! somewhere in this football land the coach’s smile beams wide;
A team is jelling somewhere, winning season draws nigh.
And somewhere throws be on the mark, receivers latch on every;
But there is no joy in River Falls — “any 22″ won’t do as ‘check’ does daily find out.”
Rin told ya so…
- – - – -
Is DuJuan Morgan myth, legend or Waldo? He is not alone in his stealthiness, for, some of the other ‘usual’ suspects too obvious via their absence –
D. Williams, Beisel & this year’s winner of the Donnie Edwards ‘broken down LB’ award, Z.Thomas – the latter an affirmation will not make it thru 16 games 2009 let alone training camp unscathed.
Mutt with yet another tough day: from the River Falls website: “Cassel had a rough start to the teams 11-on-11 situational drill. Cassel’s first three passes were all incomplete. One hit ground without a receiver in the area.”
The good news? Umm…he wasn’t intercepted – but was only 1-4.
Go Chiefs…
Like Rin told all ya alls last season – and it is AGAIN being proven the new annum: IT’S THE PLAYERS STUPID – NOT THE COACH(ES)!
Herm Edwards is STILL The Man!
X’s & O’s to you…
Real Rin ® daddy-o
Anonymous said
“Well”
- well?
“it hurts me”
- then pluck it out that offends thee…
“to say I might”
- is to plead for Rin help you as necessary…
“I said I might”
- now your resolve be wavering, appears…
“have to agree with the dog”
- (Rin Tin Tin beaming with understated pride nee in His typical ‘aw shux’ repose)
“on Lawrence.”
- Hollywood Squares: “I’ll take ‘Q’ to drop- er, I mean ‘BLOCK’. No wait-”
daddy-o
1. trading Bowe at this point is stupid for so many reasons
2. Apparently Dorsey showed up for offseason conditioning at 340lbs (same as Albert). Doubt Dorsey is under 300lbs yet, but apparently he did ok in saturday’s scrimmage.
3. Tanner pardum has been inconsistent with his snaps. I’m suprised there isnt anyone available to replace him
4. Engram seems to be an enigma. Some reports suggest he has had a horrible camp, while others say the exact opposite.
5. Although I am impressed with Succop’s range, I think he needs to kick with more explosion and quickly or else he may continue to have blocked FG in the regular season.
6. Thigpen is another enigma. He struggles with accuracy but is a playmaker when it counts. The exact opposite can be said about Croyle.
Mr. Tin Tin, I’m not sure that I’ve ever seen you discuss your reasons for disliking Haley; other than the “any 22″ notion that may or may not be true, and the quips regarding his golfing background.
I don’t know a lot about him, but I know that he learned from one of the best personnel guys around, his father; he put together a winning offense in AZ that went to the Superbowl, and he is decidedly more “old school” in his methods than what we’ve been used to in KC. I’d think he’d be your type of guy, knowing how you feel about football today vs. yesteryear.
If you have valid reasons to think Haley is a dud, I’d like to hear them.
Blazer, it’s best to just skip over any of Rin’s posts. Arguing with him will or even replying to him won’t do you any good. Just scroll on down and ignore them.
Asking for a valid opinion out of Rin is like asking Travis Henry to wear a condom. Not gonna happen.
RTT, sometimes you crack me up, most other times you annoy me
Is Cassel going to be nicknamed CaINT, ala TrINT? Croyle is not an NFL caliber QB. The guy could never find the end zone, even when healthy. Gailey worked a minor miracle with Thiggy and that horrible line, but Thiggy is inaccurate and became worthless, for some reason, in the second half of most games last year.
Real Rin ® daddy-o
Blazer383 said
“Mr. Tin Tin”
- si si, what is it now thy Obuma clunker sale proponent nee hopeful?
“I’m not sure that I’ve ever seen you discuss your reasons for disliking Haley”
- that’s because Rin be invisible if not entirely transparent; does what He can an limited internet paper desire…
“other than the “any 22″
- that be more than enough…it’s like this: twas to quote another faux genius – “acting stupidly” for to say anything of the sort. I have it on good authority that the gist is correct as to what he said.
It was a self-serving ego stroke by a nascent Head Coach who has accomplished nothing beyond creating alienation shortly after his arrival –
Will Rogers never met and Carnegie’s “How To Influence People & Win Friends” isn’t in the Chiefs coaching library of required reading…
Training camp to date as well the season 2009 will tell the tale; let’s see what transpires, shall we?
“notion”
- it was a Greek city-state on the west coast of Anatolia, about south of Izmir in modern Turkey, on the Gulf of Kuşadası; trust this informs you.
“that may or may not be true”
- oh it’s true alright…
“and the quips regarding his golfing background.”
- also true, every one of them; with a Titleist and a club in his hands, he’s more Gary Gilmore than Happy…
“I don’t know a lot about him, but I know that he learned from one of the best personnel guys around, his father”
- he’s as Brad was to Ed buddy, er Budde…same difference, i.e., no comparison at all, really.
What’s in a name? Diphthongs – some just bigger dips than others.
“he put together a winning offense in AZ that went to the Superbowl”
- wonderful… Phil Bengston was the architect of Lombardi’s great defenses in Green Bay – alas, as the Head Coach who replaced Vince, demolitionist.
Time will tell if your anointed in Kaycee soars or bores nee bombs; even if he excites he won’t be anything more at best than another Vermeil.
Cynical? Realistic.
“and he is decidedly more “old school” in his methods than what we’ve been used to in KC. I’d think he’d be your type of guy, knowing how you feel about football today vs. yesteryear.”
- if football be more about Lombardi trophies and less about style how many World Championships did hard guys like Vermeil or Schottenheimer deliver here in KC?
Did Bobby Knight impress Rin? Neither does but the point be, while style is great – a Stram had said in droves while Belichick has a hoodie,
results speak loudest.
The retired Tony Dungy was about as scintillating as a piece of wet liver – it didn’t matter. Herm Edwards too- each won & went to the playoffs with their ’style’ doing it their way. I’ll take their approach over all the aforementioned coaches just like I prefer them to the likes of a Woody Hayes or a Frank Kush for example.
Like Al Davis said: “just win baby.” We shall see regards here ‘Show Me’ … deliver us from our Mis-sou-ri if you can.
“If you have valid reasons to think Haley is a dud, I’d like to hear them.”
- he has funny cars (paraphrased ‘Jefferson Airplane’)
Don’t be MadJew… CaINT won’t throw as many picks as TrINT this season – but only because he will be replaced by Brodie Croyle (or Thigpen or whomever) before he is allowed to set a new record…
daddy-o
It will be interesting to see how some of these guys do against another colored jersey. Always hard to tell if either side of the ball is better than the other, they are both really good, or both really suck. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to realize you have to be able to catch the ball though. I think this will be a tough year for Cassel just because he will have too many dropped balls. Hope the defense really improves.
the offense has to improve, but this is practice, with a new system ,a new group, new plays I dont care what they say about “same offense” yeah right we wont be running a shotgun all season.
Q Lawrence seems to be a guy with a lot of potential but if he doesnt catch the ball(on punts) it wont matter. Made a nice play in the scrimmage however adjusting his body for a TD, but one has to wonder how he has that down but not catching punts.
At this point the offense sound way too confused for the “Same system”
starting to look like Trent’s first year when they called him Trint because he was throwing to Larry Parker and Snoop Minnis
Ok, my bad for thinking I could extract some information rather than a dissection of my post…..sorry all.
B your last two sentences will define just what the Chiefs will be in 09. Questions about the OL and the questionability of the Receivers will test Haley and Cassel (or whoever the QB is). And if the defense is not better, watch out, the games will look like traffic on I70. But do not forget we need LJ to step up big time, got to have a running game for 09.
Blazer383 do not apologize “rin tin tin 2win” is here for our amusement
talking in verse,quoting obscure, and demeaning other posts is how rrt2win fills his day
With the count down to Jackson’s signing over, he will have to find a new shtick.
Hey Rin,
I have to second what Blazer said earlier. Let’s hear your reasons for not liking Haley. I’d also like to hear your reasons as to why Herm is better than Haley. I know this might be impossible for you, but let’s see it using full sentences, paragraph format, no emoticons and modern english.
If you need to take some Ritalin to settle down beforehand, please do so.
I well go on the record on the O-Line it well be alot better not worried unless we have injuries. The QBs well be much better under a new QB coaches/ Haley. LBs/Wrs/ DLine that to me is the ???? Course I could just say I was never wrong even if Iam . That seems to work for some on here.
Another great set of blogs Rin Tin Tin, you’re the best.
Anybody who thinks you aren’t both well read and football astute just isn’t very bright.
You should also be writing for Letterman.
Blazer you started something, soon we will all know that the emperor has no clothes.
anon I agree with the wideouts, I have no faith there…I had hoped lawrence would be quicker in picking this all up but…that was probably expecting a bit much from a 6th round rookie wideout…although I do expect him to return kicks
I dont agree on the DL, I think they are deep, I dont see a hole, in a 3-4 there is no DL pass rusher, we have two NT’s, and 3 guys to play well at end…Dorsey then can pass rush in the 4-3, and if hali really makes the transition who knows…
not that babb has been on, but babb gave mcbride and hali A grades from the scrimmage, thats really positive news. Mcbride remains the guy I believe with really surprise people.
But I can see where you are worried, however Belcher could stick, Mays could fit…hes no pat thomas….we should see
Real Rin ® daddy-o sez, response to BPinKC (formerly Sinclair now Arco fame – still sporting the green apatosaurus (Brontosaurus); be a green dinosaur for you little folk reading this.)
BPinKC said
“Hey Rin”
- yes, what is it now?
“I have to second what Blazer said earlier.”
- that’s ok, he needs the help & you’re extinct nee lonely.
The facts Rin elaborated on afore will stand up against an army- even a big one (to borrow from former Chiefs DE originally of 305 lb. fame but later 285 lb. infamy Wilbur Young regarding his take on why Kaycee’s defense & he in particular wasn’t playing better: “Hey, I ain’t no Army.”
“Let’s hear your reasons for not liking Haley.”
- read my earlier blog; it’s not hiding from you, you simply fail to accept said.
Marty Schottenheimer was a former English major – not in the Army of course but rather in school… men, ask him how Rin ‘learned’ him “The Gleam”…
“I’d also like to hear your reasons as to why Herm is better than Haley.”
- proven the former versus puffery the latter…
Playoffs – multiple times and regularly Herm – 4 years out of 8; playoffs in his first season too – both in NY AND in KC; NFL player experience too – played golf…in college; an Edwards had the scouting background too- only ditto.
That help? Won’t help him or “any 22s” his…
“I know”
- good, we’ve consensus…
“this might be impossible”
- I believe it will be- Jr. will soon realize his mistake and ‘check’ will be fired during the 2010 season.
“for you”
- no, for the good of the team more so fannie$ in the $eat$…
“but”
- (drumroll)
“let’s see it using full sentences, paragraph format, no emoticons and modern english.”
- now BPinKC wants to be Rin’s literary agent; sorry, no riders nor 10% for you.
“If you need to take some Ritalin”
- you’ll split one of yours… good to know.
“to settle down beforehand”
- is as to figuratively take a knee in the head i.e., your prescribed med, Chief Bromden.
Shall Rin remove his foot fromst your neck now BP?
“please do so.”
- Rin loves it when they beg…
A tip the massive yet always overflowing Rin fedora to you, Daniel H…
daddy-o
I was up at the Scrimmage last Saturday…I am by no means an expert like dr bob here, but this is what I noticed..
1) Cassel was so so, he threw for 2 pics and 1 TD, but also bobbled a snap that lead to a defensive TD. On the second INT (they were practically back to back) the defender had great position the ball was under thrown, Cassel screamed out a four letter word and was visibly shaken. Immediately afterwards he threw to Bowe on the side line and then was the 1st person to lead the team back out to the huddle…good sign I suppose, you gotta forget those INTS.
3)Brodie was Brodie on some plays he looks like the best qb on the field and at other times he looked the worst…..
3)Of all the QBs, I would say thigpen was the best, followed by cassel although none of them were that impressive.
3) Jamal Charles had a couple of decent runs, one with a nice cut outside and then he just basically beat everyone for 30 yd TD. Of course he followed that up with a fumble on the next series, that drew a glare from Haley.
4)Haley primarily sat behind and watched the offense directly behind them, Clandergast our DC (sp) was constantly screaming encouragement at the Defense, he is definately quite the screamer.
5)Dline/LB play I thought was good, just about everyone got pressure on the QB. Dorsey had a few nice running play stiffs as well. Even T Jackson had a couple of nice moves and forced the QB out.
6) The recievers did a decent job I think, I really wasnt watching them to much, I dont remember too many drops.
6)Pollard and a few linebackers had a few really good hits on recievers in the second half.
7) After the scrimmage was over, they participated in conditioning drills. Haley yelled at a few players (Magee). Included in this conditioning was a 10 yard run back and forth. Waters found the farthest spot he possible could away from Haley, he proceeded to do the most pathetic 10 yard runs out of everyone. It was terrible, people in the stands were even yelling at him to pick it up….it amazes me how he can be all pro…hes lucky shields must have taught him all he knows about technique….but clearly he wont be a part of this team for too long….unless he shapes up…
8)Jackson appeared in pretty good shape actually, especially in the running drills at the end, of course he hasn’t participated like the rest, but I was impressed. Haley was yelling about being smart when your tired throught the drills.
“Waters found the farthest spot he possible”
- hello s mom; your boy really needs to start shaving & bathing regularly…
“clearly he wont be a part of this team for too long”
- agreed; Rin just mentioned a recent blog that sometime in 2010 ‘check’s a** will be new mown grass…
“unless he shapes up.”
- ‘fat’ chance…
daddy-o
Situational coaching reminds me of baseball…doesn’t every good baseball player know before the pitch is thrown what his play is when the ball is hit? Sounds like coach Haley is on the right track!
“Is Cassel going to be nicknamed CaINT, ala TrINT?”
MadJew…….don’t give Broncos, Raiders, & Chargers fans ideas like that.
Thanks for the update Bob.
the Anonymous post above….me
rin tin tin 2 win, you have not gone far enough, if playing the game is a prereq. to coaching, then surely we should only have ex players, writing, announcing, and telling us what to think about the game. lets see how he does b4 we sentence him to failure. I do not know Herm’s record as well as his #1 fan, but didn’t his teams’ records go down the longer he was there.
Herm came with a rep of poor game management, and lived up (down?) to it. I still would have supported him if g.m. wanted him, but he didn’t, so I let go of it and moved on.
thanks for your input BIG F!!!
I just hope cassel will be the clear better qb. Im sure before season he will be. he probably is already overall though, its just that most of us havent seen him in action at all
If we were to put CPs name to the dogs blog it seems to make since . He does have a vast history of our chiefs . Only CP would keep harping about Herm & any 22 . Unless you were on the 08 team who else .
one of the great mysteries of our time, Rin Tin Tin 2 Win, is he Carl? or better yet is he Rufus Dawes? Or are they all the same?
No matter, do not take what anyone writes anon. on these pages, even my post. Even though I use my real name. They are just opinions, everyone has one just like they all have #######s, some are just bigger and harder to ignore.
note to self; proof read post, then submit……
do not take to heart what anyone writes anon. on these pages, even my post
when all the words are in the sentence, makes more sense
I really like and appreciate the reports Bob does on the camp. What bothers me is how different the reports are from Bob and other sources like Baab and Teicher at the Star, the River Falls reports from the staff there, and others like ESPN. I guess it all depends on your perspective, and the only ones that really count are the coaches. Looking forward to the preseason games, so I can see with my own eyes.
If you want to be a Chief and you’re on the second team its very obvious you must be good on special teams. I’m glad Haley is trying to be a more of a all around coach. Not just being fixated on the offense. Hopefully these receivers get together. IF not we might need to package some picks, players, or something for Boldin in Arizona. I’m really getting irritated by the fact these receivers dropping balls in camp.
“steve said
- i have lost the capacity to capitalize almost entirely… even my own name is subservient nee be lowercase. won’t some one please help me?”
“rin tin tin 2 win”
- no, not interested – that would imply Rin cared.
“you have not gone far enough”
- alright: I Rin hate you…willst that suffice?
“if playing the game is a prereq. to coaching, then surely we should only have ex players, writing, announcing, and telling us what to think about the game.”
- if wearing rose-colored glasses is a ‘prereq.’ to being a Chiefs fan, then surely we must only have ‘lickspittle’ blogging here and telling us what to think about the game.
Too, if you want a ‘big winner’ as a Head Coach, those who won more than 200 games each rank 1-5 all-time in W’s ALL PLAYED THE GAME OF FOOTBALL: Shula, Halas, Landry, Lambeau, Noll & Marty S.
Former golf coaches? Tom Bodette will leave the lights on for you…
“lets see how he does b4 we sentence him to failure.”
- bloggers prerogative – Rin sentences to failure…via his own device “any 22″.
“I do not know Herm’s record as well as his #1 fan, but didn’t his teams’ records go down the longer he was there.”
- just the same as Schottenheimer, Vermeil, Noll & Landry among others. Right. ‘check.’
“Herm came with a rep of poor game management, and lived up (down?) to it. I still would have supported him if g.m. wanted him, but he didn’t, so I let go of it and moved on.”
- is Rin supposed to care you did this, that or some other… He does not.
Real Rin ® daddy-o
I do like the Bodette comment . Why do you feel the need to put down anyone that disagrees . Its evident that you think we are morons . Yes we Chief fans have rose colored glass if we didn’t we would have gave up on the Chiefs Long Ago. Faith & desire ……….. that this time they well get it right. Join the faith or move on to a team that you feel has what it takes to make you proud. J.T. Collins
Anonymous said
“I do like the Bodette comment.”
- Rin can understand that…He knew you would.
“Why do you feel the need to put down anyone that disagrees.”
- style does not discriminate – Rin is an equal opportunity destroyer. He is not concerned with saying innocuous things – says what He believes.
If said cuts then wear steel mesh…truth hurts.
“Its evident that you think we are morons.”
- ok; satire, sarcasm and biting wit… sticks & stones may break your bones but words will never hurt you.
“Yes we Chief fans have rose colored glass if we didn’t we would have gave up on the Chiefs Long Ago.”
- a resolve of such a heroic proportion… or blind faith.
“Faith & desire ……….. that this time they well get it right.’
- uh huh…
“Join the faith or move on to a team that you feel has what it takes to make you proud.”
- it’s nice the way you consider my well being… thanks – but Rin thinks He’ll stay right here all season long…
“J.T. Collins”
- aka H.R. Pufnstuf…
daddy-o
Thanks for answering H.R. Pufnstuf
What a pleasure to see a real head coach go over situations in a game that the prior clown was deficient in, time and time again. Therefore he nor clueless Curl, his walking time piece, couldn’t show the team the right way of doing things since they didn’t know what that was. Haley’s attention to detail should win us, and/or avoid losing us, a few games in end of game situations, that have been lost over the last decade, as DV was also pretty clueless in game and time management.
“Haley’s attention to detail should win us, and/or avoid losing us, a few games in end of game situations…”
Missouri’s still the “show me” state – so let them show us some execution and I’ll agree with you.
“Two ends of the veterans spectrum: OLB Mike Vrabel was talking and communicating all through a snap in a blitz period. Even as the ball was snapped, he was directing traffic.”
Another entertaining tidbit for Scott…looks like we’re getting value for this 2nd round pick. The net “Gonzo – for – Cassel plus Vrabel” could actually look “less than horrible.”
It is one thing for a rookie head coach to be yelling at veteran players and quite another to be yelling at veteran coaches. I don’t understand the need for all of the yelling (one of the things that I liked about Herm). I don’t think players respond well to all the yelling. They may play to keep their job but they won’t play out of respect for the coach. I don’t know, maybe the way Bob writes about it it just sounds worse than it really is. Speaking of enigma, when I listen to Haley talk I like what I hear but when I read what Bob writes I don’t like the guy at all.
True Red & Gold-
There were aspects of Herm’s stoic attitude that I liked. However, I don’t believe he was able to get his point across to the players. I think his record speaks for itself.
When you watch a guy like Belichick on the sidelines he is actually coaching the players. He is making in-game changes to to the plan that was hatched earlier in the week. I didn’t see that with Herm. He would just stand there, fold his arms, and do his best Tony Dungy impression.
Yelling and cursing might not be for everyone, but standing there with your thumb in your backside helps no one.
One thing is certain…the Chiefs needed a change. Haley may not be the answer, but I think it’s too early to tell.
“Haley may not be the answer”
- but at least this keeps him off the golf course this fall…
“but I think it’s too early to tell.”
- oh, you can tell alright- that’s why had sign Mike Goff…
daddy-o