Camp Practice Update 8/4 P.M.

From River Falls, Wisconsin

Obviously Pioli/Haley were not happy with what they saw in the first few days of training camp from their wide receivers.

What other reasons could there be for the signing 14-year veteran Amani Toomer. Wearing No. 13, Toomer was on the field for the Chiefs afternoon practice, their only session of Tuesday.

That was just a piece of a busy personnel day for the Chiefs. They signed Toomer, made official their claim on waivers of LB Vince Redd and said they had waived G Edwin Harrison and TE Tony Curtis. Both Harrison and Curtis had not been practicing because of injuries – Harrison his right knee and Curtis his left ankle.

But the big news was the addition of the 6-3, 203-pound, 34-year old Toomer, who played in 190 games for the New York Giants.

“We are actually down a receiver from the numbers we wanted,” Haley said. “As we’ve said we will do anything that we can to improve the competition. We worked him out and it looked like he still had something in his gas tank. I thought the rest of the receivers picked it up a little bit.”

When asked about his receiving group as a whole, Haley was not effusive with praise.

“It’s a work in progress,” he said. “We have to eliminate drops, w e have to do a better job mentally in some of the areas. But today was positive. From what I can tell there was a little more focus and any time you add somebody of Amani’s ability and what he’s done in the league, it can do nothing but help you. ”

Also on the field was LB Vince Redd, claimed on waivers Monday from New England. He was wearing No. 98 with the defense, working at outside linebacker.

On one play, Toomer showed he still has the ability to catch the ball. He went high to pull down a throw from QB Ingle Martin on the sidelines, getting both feet down and controlling the ball. It was one of the better catches of the Chiefs training camp so far this summer.

Here are some observations and nuggets from Tuesday’s session:

- ILB Derrick Johnson and DE Glenn Dorsey both returned to practice. Johnson moved right back into the starting lineup, while Dorsey split time at right defensive end in the first unit with Alex Magee. “I’m just going day-by-day,” Dorsey said. “I’m’ just going to get ready for tomorrow’s morning practice and that’s all I’m thinking about.”

- ILB Zack Thomas started practice, but eventually ended up on the bike patrol with the rehab team. It appears he may have an injury to his upper left leg. When he left, Corey Smith ran with the first team defense next to Johnson.

- The practice was very spirited and especially hard hitting in the run game segments. In what is called the half-line drill, one side (left or right) of the offensive line lines up against one side (left or right) of the defense. There’s also a running back and fullback, and the goal for the offense is to break the run, while the defense wants to stuff the ball carrier. Some rugged hitting in thisone, including Dorsey throwing Larry Johnson to the ground and a near fight between OLB Turk McBride and T Barry Richardson. McBride walked away from the confrontation when Richardson went after him.

- There were also pads popping in a goal line drill, with six plays that the offense and defense split with three wins each. The play of the practice came when Larry Johnson ran left and Derrick Johnson shot through a gap and tackled him for what would have been a three or four-yard loss. Big move, big play by DJ.  Also in this drill, Brian Waters suffered some sort of right leg injury, probably ankle or foot. He left the drill but returned to run with the offense in a final session, even though he was limping.

- Despite knowing they have to run as punishment, players can’t seem to stop from jumping early on the snap. On Tuesday, Waters and WR Quinten Lawrence both had to run because of false starts, while CB Ricardo Colclough had to run when he left early on a punt.

- The Chiefs worked very hard on their punt team in this practice, and a couple of bad kicks by Dustin Colquitt drew the ire of Haley. “Come on Dustin, I need better than that,” Haley said.

- In one of the running drills, ILB Monty Beisel came up to stop RB Jackie Battle and connected on a good hit. But it was Beisel who was staggered as Battle ran right through him.

39 Responses to “Camp Practice Update 8/4 P.M.”

  • August 4, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    The daddy-o can now be addressed as…..


    because of the ‘bold’ prediction of a Post Herm apaco-’lips’ str8 from Rin’s mouth.

    you heard it first folks!

    Al….. keep your head up, comrade! for your precious ‘Q’ is in the barracks

    farewall my fellow gretzians, this will be my last post!

    daddy-o signing out!

  • August 4, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    And the imitator bows down, takes a knee and flees whence I Real Rin approach…

    Real Rin ® daddy-o sez -

    What . . .no mention of ‘Q’? alex k (not to be confused with Trabek), what double jeopardy be this? In truth, this be madness! Things be not looking good in Lawrence-ville…

    In other news hmm, lemme see now: Toomer, Engram, Goff, Z.Thomas, Vrabel, Brown, Methusaleh…that makes it a not so lucky 7 relic-dom; George Allen lives…

  • August 4, 2009  - gorillafan says:

    Dorsey back!!
    Johnson back!!
    We signed Toomer!!

    Thats all I need to say!! For us too fans anyway

  • August 4, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Alex K aka Al is the hooligan of imposterous proportians. I have notified B.o.B of these blasphemies and they will be handled accordingly..


    Real Rin ® daddy-o sez -

    Al, Gorrila Fan, your attempts to hijack my daddy-0 atomic blogs, have been denied.









  • August 4, 2009  - gorillafan says:

    You have shown me the way Rin!

    I am sorry for ever trying to oppose such swag!

    Rin is the truth!

  • August 4, 2009  - alex k says:

    I agree, Rin is boss.

  • August 4, 2009  - SG says:


  • August 4, 2009  - Nick L says:

    all I do is take ‘L’s’ from Rin.

    I surrender.

  • August 4, 2009  - Scott says:

    Rin you are ruining Bob’s blog.

    I have to admit tho, you are a handsome devil.

  • August 4, 2009  - Josh says:

    Somebody help. Rin has owned me.

  • August 4, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    No & knocks means - it ain’t a Real Rin ® daddy-o blog… it’s kryptonite to the fake - can’t touch that!

    heh heh heh

  • August 4, 2009  - JP says:

    Real JP sez

    Rin, dearest, you have gone too far my friend.

  • August 4, 2009  - gorillafan says:

    I am a fan of gorillas.

  • August 4, 2009  - alex k says:

    please refer to me as Al from now on Rin.

  • August 4, 2009  - findthedr says:

    what is going on in here?

    smells of catfish…

  • August 4, 2009  - alex k says:

    Anyway, the fake posting is lame….Can keep up with it, thats fine, its just really really dumb…Rin’s posting when its actually Rin isn’t killing the site, these false names are.

    As for practice, you are right rin, q lawrence started before the snap, but so did brian waters….Guess this means Pro Bowl Waters is worse than the guards that didnt jump right?

    Lawrence is a KR specialist, much like your guy K-Rob, except hes actually fast.

    Bob, put in the pay system, anything to end this stupidity.

  • August 4, 2009  - Blake says:

    I think we just need to have something where we log in to post, and if someone is being annoying(Rin) then they get blocked and cant post.

  • August 4, 2009  - get real says:

    Have to say Bob makes the camp more interesting than it really is. Nice to see Chiefs still shopping for bodies. Maybe a couple of diamonds in the rough who want to play in the NFL. Apparently there are still some Dick’s and herm’s players who do not get the message yet. Looking forward, not many will be left in 2011. Not many worth resigning for bigger contracts.

  • August 4, 2009  - ED says:

    Bradley and Darling must be doing horrible for us to bring in 34 year old Toomer. Hey at least the new regime not sitting around hoping these guys get better. If guys not getting the job done replace them thats what good teams do.

  • August 4, 2009  - Jim Lloyd+ says:

    Toomer is just as tough as they come , and he is the type of go to man , even more so than TG .

    This could be the best thing to happen for every one ,him and the team. With him being here , thing’s will really start in the right dic.

    Nice work Scott and Mr. Haley .

    Clark– Bet you never guessed all this !

  • August 4, 2009  - ED says:

    Man don’t ever say Toomer is better than Tony G Jim Lloyd. He’s not better than Tony G in any thing concerning football. Toomer is not a future Hall of Famer. I mean please don’t ever insult Tony like that again. Good to Dorsey is back.

  • August 4, 2009  - alex k says:

    Ed, do you think that at 28, Darling is better than 34, Toomer?

    Darling has never had a season close to the 48 catch season that Toomer had at age 33 last season.

    This is an upgrade, signed to another ONE year deal…no risk…

  • August 4, 2009  - Chiefs Training Camp Update: 8/4 says:

    [...] The practice was very spirited and especially hard hitting in the run game segments. ( [...]

  • August 4, 2009  - « wire2 says:

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  • August 4, 2009  - get real says:

    Maybe Toomer can build a fire under our hero D. Bowe, signed for tons of dollars and cannot keep his concentration during games. Apparently he still does not get WRs have to catch the ball on a consistant basis (even setting all those records for yardage).

    You who love Bradley or Darling, get over it one will not make the opening day roster. Do not really care which, both are only one step above Webb, another loser.

  • August 4, 2009  - anonymous says:


    Leonard Hacker, err Buddy Hackett was in River Falls?!


  • August 4, 2009  - Jim Lloyd+ says:

    Ed–you don’t enough about football to detail the difference—IF you are Ed ~ I didn’t resend that last one and halve of this crap comes from —WHO KNOWS?
    This will be my last post for 30 days—

  • August 4, 2009  - Jim Lloyd+ says:

    What a bunch of JERKS…

  • August 4, 2009  - Johnfromfairfax says:

    I have to agree with Alex. It’s getting difficult wading through the chum. The Toomer signing is a good move. Low cost/risk and does exactly what they’ve said they would do, increase competition. I don’t give a Rin if he’s 50 if he’s better than what we have and they obviously believe that’s the case.

  • August 4, 2009  - Mark says:

    Good to see something ligh a fire under Barry Richardson.
    Toomer faded BADLY late last year in NY, when they needed him to step up after Plax got gun crazy. I think he’s about done, but a no risk signing. Hopefully one of he or Engram doesn’t make the team. Little benefit to having 2 non starting WR’s 35 or over who don’t play specials. Darling is a big time special teamer and probaby a better WR than Toomer at this point. I hope Haley sees it the same way.

  • August 5, 2009  - colby says:

    I’ll come back and check out the Bob posts from time to time, but I am now going the route of several other quality posters by boycotting this section entirely until BOB GRETZ gets it together and puts a login system in. This section sucks not because of Rin. Idiots will be idiots no matter what. The guy who runs this site, BOB GRETZ, needs to take some freaking pride in his work and give the loyal readers what they are asking for.

    You’ll never make any money off of this site Bob if you let sh*t like this continue. What, the first 20 posts or so here are fake. Make a system where you have to SUBSCRIBE to post and all of a sudden, this site gets a lot better. Adios fellas. I know there are still some good posters here, but it just isn’t worth wading through the crap any more.

  • August 5, 2009  - alex k says:

    Bob does put out fantastic content, and that cannot be overlooked…maybe people can just respect the site, and Bob, and just talk football…

    I agree on Richardson, something needs to get him going, he was highly ranked at one point the year before he was drafted. Talented but refuses to push himself.

    And yeah, Toomer is indeed the true low risk guy that brings a great locker room presence….obviously he faded late last year due to being the number 1 guy at 34, but he can make a great 4th, and sometimes 2nd…and if he starts as our 2nd reciever…great, its a one year deal to help out this team.

  • August 5, 2009  - MADMARTIGAN says:

    i think your doing a great job being our eyes and ears for now. rin is a dbag. ignore children and they go away

  • August 5, 2009  - MADMARTIGAN says:

    toomer was a solid signing. lets hope we use to get to plaxico. cut webb campaign has begun!

  • August 5, 2009  - SG says:

    BW sighting!

    “Also in this drill, Brian Waters suffered some sort of right leg injury, probably ankle or foot.”

    I’m not exactly shocked to see a report of an injury (he may have worked in the offseason on his own - maybe). But for those who wondered if he would show up for work or not…this seems to speak to that issue:

    “He left the drill but returned to run with the offense in a final session, even though he was limping.”

    Hopefully we’ll see more of the same and this begins to put commentary on whether he will go to work to rest - as if there was any question of such based on his body of work over several seasons.

  • August 5, 2009  - alex k says:

    Yeah I have to agree with Jeff Webb overstaying his welcome. I never saw a whole lot in the guy, but he just keeps making it….

    Hard time seeing that continue
    Bowe/Bradley/Engram/Toomer…I believe Q Lawrence makes it but as a KR…so that 5th reciever spot is between Darling/Johnson/Webb/etc

  • August 5, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Bowe, Toomer, Bradley, Darling and Copper make the Chiefs 53 man roster at WR - practice squad, ‘Q’ - unless the Arena Football League changes it’s mind & plays the season in 2009…

    As of today, Dantrell Savage would be the Chiefs KR/PR


  • August 5, 2009  - CK says:

    Just ignore Rint……..

    Bob, I agree this is the best Chiefs site. But, I hope you add a feature to have us sign in to post.
    Then abusive posters like Rint can be warned and then banned.

  • August 5, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    It’s called self-defense you chicken ****

    Don’t abuse Rin and He will not have to abuse the abuser(s) - i.e., if it hurts, stop bringing pain upon self.

    Rin is a counter puncher - not a fire-starter…He may be a pot stirrer nee straw that stirs the blog but then, discourse is the goal…


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