Camp Practice Update 8/5 A.M.
From River Falls, Wisconsin
Todd Haley spent a lot of time paying attention to the team’s wide receivers during the Wednesday morning session and based on his commentary throughout the practice, he didn’t like what he saw.
“Come on Jake (O’Connell) you’ve got to know the whole picture.”
“Stay off the ground. I don’t want to see us get an interception because you are laying on the ground.”
“I’m tired of the picks and dropped balls.”
That was the tone of what was a spirited full pads practice under brillant sunshine here at UW-River Falls.
On back-to-back plays in one drill, WR Mark Bradley dropped an easy catch against air, and WR Amani Toomer made a difficult catch. WR Dwayne Bowe fell down several times while making his cuts, so did Toomer and WR Bobby Engram. CB Ricardo Colclough had an interception of QB Tyler Thigpen when WR Jeff Webb fell down. Later, CB Londen Fryar picked off a QB Matt Cassel pass intended for Engram.
The offense and defense got after it in drills for the running game, with some good contact during the session. The passing game remains hit and miss, no matter who is throwing the ball.
Here are some observations and nuggets of information from the workout:
- Missing from the practice was ILB Monty Beisel. He was not part of the rehab session either. In Tuesday’s practice, Beisel took a blow when he went to tackle RB Jackie Battle, so that might be a lingering problem. As usual Haley would not address the situation.
- OLB Mike Vrabel did not take part in the practice, working with the bike patrol over in the area that Haley has dubbed “No Man’s Land.” Nothing serious, just a practice off for the veteran.
- Also on the rehab-bike team for this workout were: LBs Wes Dacus and Demorrio Williams, RB Kolby Smith, TE Brad Cottam, S DaJuan Morgan and OL Wade Smith.
- LG Brian Waters did all the practice work with the exception of one-on-one pass protection. When the lines went there, Waters snapped the ball for the quarterbacks in the seven-on-seven drill.
- In that seven-on-seven, CB Brandon Carr picked off a Cassel throw with very good coverage.
- Andy Studebaker replaced Vrabel with the first defense at OLB, opposite Tamba Hali.
- K Ryan Succop was three-for-three on his FGs. He made the first one as the Chiefs went to a hurry up situation to get the FG team on the field and set up.
- CB Brandon Carr picked off a Cassel pass in the seven-on-seven drill.
- During the team work session, Battle had several very nice runs, showing good speed and power. Two of those runs came on back to back plays over the right side of the No. 1 defense and that would be DE Glenn Dorsey and OLB Tamba Hali. RB Jamaal Charles also had a couple of nice runs, breaking a sweep for what would have been big yardage.
- The Chiefs went with a short-yardage session, with the offense facing a 3rd-and-1 play. The offense appeared to convert on all six snaps, including a play where Charles burst through the line for wh at would have been a big gainer.
- Again, after practice there were seven players catching kicks off the ball machine: Rodney Wright, Quinten Lawrence, Jackie Bates, Charles, Maurice Leggett, Fryar and Carr.
Veteran with a day off, huh……
Thomas? cry baby Waters? just Vrabel. huh…
I thought maybe Vrabel used and excuse to sit one out. But id like to think he wouldnt do that.
P.S. JACKSON, QUITE BEING GREEDY AND GET YOUR ASS TO CAMP!! He is going to be the next Jamarcus Russel…or however you spell it
Hey Bob if you are reading this and can remember when the time comes, it would be good to know what distances Succop is missing/making from. Seems like you were more diligent with this last camp.
Thanks
speaking of spelling, its QUIT, but like it matters anyway
Thanks Bob,
I’m not really sure what to think about these camp updates. It seems like our defense is making strides to become better but maybe it just it’s just an illusion because our offense is so bad.
How do you compare this team with others in which you have covered in the past?
Kenny
C’mon Studebaker! Someone in SW Missouri is pulling for ya
~ The many moods of our man ~
“Come on Jake (O’Connell) you’ve got to know the whole picture.”
- ( talking to another KC coach) “That any 22′r will do’r” ain’t cuttin’ it coach - send in another one.”
“Stay off the ground. I don’t want to see us get an interception because you are laying on the ground.”
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player on ground: “But coach, it was a fumble!”
“Oh… then never mind.”
“I’m tired of the picks and dropped balls.”
- “It’s obvious we need to lose some more weight men- alright, EVERYBODY DANCE- ER, I MEAN RUN!!!”
- - - - -
“CB Londen Fryar picked off a QB Matt Cassel pass intended for Engram.” AND “CB Brandon Carr picked off a Cassel throw” AND in yet a different seven-on-seven drill - “CB Brandon Carr picked off a Cassel pass.”
- that makes, what…about 20 picks for Mutt so far in less than a week?
- Game 1 regular season: “Brodie - loosen up, you’re going in.”
Real Rin ® daddy-o, ’search’ & ‘check’ affirming…
Ten days ’till the season opener. I would imagine that we won’t see much, but it will be good to watch some Chiefs football again!
I haven’t seen anything about Dantrell Savage since camp started? He looks to be on the roster still but never hear anything. Didn’t he go to Texas to work with Preist Holmes in July? Just wondering how he’s doing???
Lawrence is looking more and more like a bad pick. Maybe he can be a KR in 09 and WR in 2010.
HERE HERE! ENCORE ENCORE! AUTHOR AUTHOR!
daddy-o
AND HEAR HEAR TOO!
Hey Bob… I think Haley and crew should look up Matt Jones and give him a tryout. Has youth, size, speed, and seems to have his act together. Would be a nice redemption story if he gets a shot and takes advantage. Put a bug in Haley’s ear.
Marc
OK, I’m back a little earlier than advertised, but not to get deep into the various issues but to perhaps ‘advertise’ them:
re: COLBY and the registering of posters. Excellent points made and I’ll comment shortly.
re: Bob’s comments on the future of this board which I also, was encouraged by and similarly, will comment further.
re: Haley and his way along with Pioli and his method of building a team. Again, (altogether now: ‘Will comment further’)
re: The signing of Tyson Jackson.
I’m getting my head around all the above and will hopefully offer something of considerable substance early tomorrow with Bob’s first posting of that day.
Meantime, my Chiefs bros and sisters? It’s all good and we’re on the road back.
Succop went out in that rush situation and hit one from 50 plus the other day…seems most attempts are around 35-40 however.
I must say the falling down is getting ridiculous, the DB’s seem to be dominating our weak WR’s…Not sure if its good or bad, ill go with bad when Colcolough is picking off passes…thats two for him that came off a guy being knocked over. Or at least he dropped an easy pick 6.
Makes you wonder if Haley is seriously pushing for a Boldin type trade to go down…
Rin, you are prejudiced…and a bigot.
In case you don’t know what that means, I’ll let Webster explain it to you:
prejudice: (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge. b) : an instance of such judgment or opinion. c) : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics.
bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.
That explains your “daily spew” to a T. Here’s an idea…throw in a FACT now and then. And perhaps something NEW once in awhile…so you can stop the constant beating of that dead horse you refer to as brilliant opinion. Try it…and maybe then, you won’t look like such an ass. You’re bringing down the average IQ around here tremendously. Makes us ALL look bad.
Rip’em,
Good to see you back. I look forward to your opinions on the above stated subjects…and disagreeing with them, as usual. LMAO!
Scott,
In spite of yourself, you’re a good guy, I think. I’ll be back to ‘bring it’ tomorrow, and would be disappointed in your not getting into with me.
Look forward to the discussion, my friend.
Rin-you need to get a job. I bet you wasted 45 minutes on that post…
Nice hat on Coach Haley ” Dallas Texans”
Scott- you get what you deserve when you continue to respond to Rint tint herm.
Just scroll on by……..
Hopefully the vet WR can help mentor the younger ones. Go Chiefs!
By the way….
Is anyone else going to Canton this weekend? My son and I are driving there. It will be bittersweet, but we got to go.
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Wish I could go
Real Rin ® daddy-o sez -
“Scott says”
- nothing, per the usual. Let’s listen in…
“Rin”
- yes, what is it now my faithful shadow? And tell me - who is the wittiest, prettiest and most read blogger in all the land?
“you are”
- honesty be next to Rin, then comes Godliness. And you are-
“prejudiced…and a bigot.”
- the confessional booth be straining under the weight your admissions today - tell Father Rin more…
“In case you don’t know what that means, I’ll let Webster explain it to you”
- with or without George Papadapolis help? No matter, give us a brief- no no, not Hanes nor your Abner fixation either - a brief ’summary’ nee ’summation’ if you will…
“prejudice: (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge. b) : an instance of such judgment or opinion. c) : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics.”
- excellent; Rin is certain that if you practice said your preaching willst become more apropos & less gung ho your manner supercilious… silly.
Go on then…
“bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.”
- sounds like to a T… odd. Would that explain- it would! That explains your-
“That explains your”
- remember, don’t interrupt or Rin shall have to smite thee…again. Now then, that explains your daily spew to a T.
“daily spew to a T.”
- lemme know once the echoes stop rattling around your skull - any idea how you plan to apply this new found knowledge yours?
“Here’s an idea”
- no - that is your alimentary canal that you’re pointing to- a natural mistake your case. No, for most folk that is NOT where ideas come from- HERE be what an idea looks like - - you see, no muffled sounds, no compacted thought process, and then aft you get the gist of an idea you throw in a FACT now and then.
“throw in a FACT now and then.”
- that’s right - now you’re getting it! And perhaps something NEW once in awhile.
“And perhaps something NEW once in awhile”
- correct - and do you know why this is important after that equestrian yours that you mistook for insight was found prone & lifeless the stable?
“so you can stop the constant beating of that dead horse you refer to as brilliant opinion.”
- that’s right - so you don’t look like a nimrod all your life…Scottie. Try it and maybe then-
“Try it…and maybe then”
- and then you won’t look like such an-
“ass.”
- exactly - you’ve located where your problem lie and can now ‘head out’, confident you can now see the light - it must be a tremendous load off your major weight bearing appendage too. To be able to sit down without choking is a good thing too for your-
“You’re”
- no, ‘your’…for ‘your’ limitations were bringing-
“bringing”
- that’s right Miracle Ear, bringing down the average IQ around here tremendously.
“down the average IQ around here tremendously.”
- that makes us all ALL look bad…
“Makes us ALL look bad.”
- well except for Rin of course…
Real Rin ® daddy-o sez -
dave said
“Rin”
- yes what is it now knave- er, dave?
“you need to get a job.”
- Rin already has one… roll over.
“I bet you wasted 45 minutes on that post.”
- no, it took me no longer than it took you to scribble yours…
Well sounds as if the vet WR picks were needed or or CB’s are superstars hehehe. No I think our CBs are good but not that good. WRs need some help glad Pioli delivered. Not sure who said it but I hope one of our younger guys can step up and take Toomer or Engram off the starting 3 but think it would be alright to have one on the bench. But Bradley, Bowe and company keep playing like they are we may have a whole slue of vet.WRs. Hey whoever wants to work and play put them in or sign who will. Like what I am seeing so far from the Coaches on up and alot of the players it seems pretty positive so far.
yeah, I dont see Toomer being a backup at all. He will be a start, so will Bowe, and id put ingram in there too.
It will be interesting on the first game to see who will be starting and who will be setting on the bench.
““Makes us ALL look bad.”
- well except for Rin of course…”
Yeah, that’s what YOU think. The rest of us know better, despite your lame attempt at…at…ummm…just exactly what was it you were trying to do? I got bored pretty quick, and didn’t finish reading it…to be honest. Typical Rin post, actually. Long on wind…and zero substance. No matter. I’m sure it wasn’t anything you haven’t said before. Blah, blah, blah. But, I know it must have taken you a long time to come up with all that…and required you to conjure up all three living brain cells to type it. So, I give credit where credit is due. My apologies for not giving a rat’s ass about the content.
But hey…whatever keeps your little fantasy world spinning, dude.
Scottie doth protest - ad nauseam - too much for one so c*** sure of himself… NAUGHT
Real Rin ® daddy-o
What happened to all those many pledges yours to ignore Rin, to not read Rin, to never ever again respond to Rin?
Real Rin ® daddy-o
Rin only responds to you when you first have taken a swing at He- don’t be a s***er p****er, then run away complaining because Rin popped you back right in the k****r.
Una vez mas - if it hurts Scottie stop reading & responding…if you do respond in your usual way (flailing away at Rin but alas, succeeding only punching yourself in the mouth) - Rin WILL hurt you nee defend Himself.
Real Rin ® daddy-o
Real Rin ® daddy-o sez -
One last thing Scottie…
This is Bob G’s blog, not yours or mine or anyone else’s in a proprietary manner- never forget that.
Rin will blog as he sees fit just as you do your case. You nor anyone else not named Bob G is the arbiter of said blog.
If Bob has a problem with anyone he will likely address them/said. That is his job - not yours.
Is it possible that - OH! - you may just discover he has more of a problem with ‘busybody you’ than he has with anyone else?
Hmm…
Just in case you missed it (from the other article), although I KNOW you didn’t…I’ll post it again here:
Scott says:
Yeah, Rin I responded to you. Even after I’ve said several times that I wouldn’t do it any more. I admit it. No problem.
Thing is…
Somebody has to call you on your BS. So every now and then, I step up and do it…even though I really shouldn’t waste the energy. And just in case you’ve not figured out what everybody else here already knows for a fact…I own your ass every single time.
____________
Still true. You see, I’ve decided NOT to stop responding to you. I’ll be right here to disagree with you, whenever I feel the need.
Hey, if you can’t stand the heat? Then YOU can stop addressing ME. But as long as you attack the Chiefs? As a Chiefs fan, I WILL fight back.
As far as whose site this is? That’s funny…coming from you. Since you have admitted multiple times to only coming here to stir up trouble, and piss people off. If Bob has a “problem” with me…I trust he’ll let me know. But, I think he’s smart enough to see what’s what.
yeesh, saw the updates on cbssportsline, could defend dropping punts when you are first learning the colquitt spin…but not 6 practices in…Cmon q lawrence step it up we need playmakers that hold onto the ball. Still think he can bounce back but goodness…if he does that in a preseason game hes toast
If Toomer and Engram are starters, does that make Bowe an overpaid backup who might have been badly coached by herm? Dorsey is said to have a chronic knee condition from back in college. If you remember, carl touted this guy the november before the draft. Better hope I am full of it otherwise, another set back.
get real,
Bowe is not a back-up. He’s a guy with a TON of potential to be a monster receiver in this league. Two problems, though. He has trouble hanging onto the ball (concentration, I believe)…and he was brought in under Herm’s “Country Club” style of practicing. Haley will get him straightened out, though. He’s knows a thing or two about receivers. Also, some “mentoring” from Toomer and Engram should help. D Bowe hasn’t had that the last two seasons - someone at his position to “look up to” for work ethic and etc.
As far as Dorsey goes? From what I’ve read, his biggest problem is that he came into camp overweight and out of shape.
Real Rin ® daddy-o sez, response to alex k who said -
“Cmon q lawrence step it up”
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al(ex)…Rin feels your pain; well, not really He doesn’t because Rin is impervious to said, but it sounded heroic, & I wanted to give you more salve for those 3rd degree ‘Q’ burns.
Speed is NOT enough: the Chiefs had Jimmy Hines - a 9.1 100 yard dash world class sprinter in 1970 - he failed here in KC as well as in MIA & OAK, among other places. Ditto for Clyde ‘The Glide’ Glossen, a 9.2 sprinter that same year… nyet.
Time will tell but Rin still believes QL will be coming to a DV list near you sometime this fall…
Ingle Martin is gone. Guess Brodie is the #3 QB. What’s this about Al Davis being “in the house”??? Al Davis is at our practices? WTF could THAT be about?
Real Rin ® daddy-o sez, response to get real who said-
“Dorsey is said to have a chronic knee condition from back in college. If you remember, carl touted this guy the november before the draft.”
- as did MOST EVERY other team; I was impressed by the former CEO/GM/Prez about as much as I am the vacuous ramblings ‘Scottie the Blog Snobbie’, but in Carl’s case he was not alone his lunacy.
“If toomer and engram are starters, does that make Bowe an overpaid backup who might have been badly coached by Herm?”
- yes - if Bowe plays like he has to date with all his inconsistency he could well be a backup. has no sense of humor whatsoever appears so Dwayne’s buttfangers may well lead him to the bench.
By the way, if you want to blame Herm for Bowe & everything else 2008, then turnabout being fair play we shall blame & for the poor coaching to date of Q Lawrence and all the other WRs - a specialty - and the holdout of Ty Jackson on ;shock:, just as folk always blame Carl when he is the GM as such.
Can’t have it both ways… only Scottie ‘The Blog Snobbie’ can see and talk out of both ends of his a*s-hat at the same time…
“only Scottie ‘The Blog Snobbie’ can see and talk out of both ends of his a*s-hat at the same time…”
And you’d recognize that trait right off, huh? A “takes one to know one” sort of thing?
Yes, Herm is TOTALLY blameless for our current teams state. But…as you keep saying, he’ll be responsible for all our wins this year? LMAO!!! And you talk about talking out of both ends of ones ass? Thanks for providing an example.
Besides…Bowe has a great season last year. Just in case anyone forgot. Haley wants better, though. EXPECTS better. I think he’ll get it.
Scott, I like your style & bless you for your fortitude. You are probably hands down the most consistent & “in sync” patriot of the KC Chiefs.
Most of us on the outside looking in, respect your opinions & astute observations. I for one, read all your postings, usually glad I did.
There is a cetain dog out there that has hand picked you as his “whipping boy” & he is subsequently (in his own mind) thinks that it is all about him. Think about it my friend, he is feeding off of you & dragging you into a world where only Hollywood can create.
Most of us out here want you back to the old Scott.
We can tell when it is you blogging & not some small brained idiot portraying you & using your good name.
Take a deep breath, keep your head up. He will continue to critique your blogs in his own perverted way. He will antagonize & berate you until you respond to him.
So Don’t…
He will eventually find another whipping boy to exploit his pitiful, bitter & pathetic world. You are better than that. Your spirit & love of the Chiefs is honorable, especially during these trying times when they are not expected to be very good this year. Not by me of course, just the sports gurus & writers & the pessimistic ilk that follows them around.
Jimbo,
Thanks. Just the kind of day it’s been, I guess. I should really stick to the Chiefs, I know…and ignore the insanity.
I value your opinion as much as anybody’s here. I appreciate the “reality check”, and will try not to sink to the level of those I have no respect for.
Easier said than done, though. I can’t make any promises…as I’ve proved over and over again. But, I’ll try. Thanks again for the kind words and advice.
Real Rin ® daddy-o sez -
Wow…heavy stuff. Can someone pass me a Kleenex (or vomit bag) - Rin thinks He’s gonna cry (or hurl)
heh heh heh
Scott,
Glad you got to read my 2 cents worth. My wife was calling me into supper & I really did’nt get to finish like I wanted.
Hang in there, we need you on board. I know that men of principle are fighters. You are a fighter, Just think of who or what you are fighting…Seriously,…
I may have provoked your nemesis. Bring it on tin dog.
Case Closed… Good Luck Young man.
With all do respect for you. I will not address your dog conflict again.
Rin Tin Tin - you da man!
To Dog I refuse to believe you where in my core . With your mouth you had to be on point the whole time you where there. Well you could have been a Louie. Core - 1969
I’m a little fairy.
girls, girls… same team here. rin is an odd ball, no doubt about it. he just takes forever to kinda make a point…its cool. he’s not an optimise… its cool. scott, just a deep breath, wooosabba… ignore him by not responding. you are letting him win by wasting time with retorts… moving on… the WRs need longer cleats or more kicks in the ass. we’ll find out during the preseason games what the hell is going on with them. i’m more worried about oline and dline than WR. get tysons ass in camp. keep the peace!! go chiefs and go royals