Camp Practice Update 8/18 P.M.
From River Falls, Wisconsin
Mike Vrabel says that Brett Favre’s routine of missing training camp and then showing up to play quarterback wouldn’t fly with the regime of Pioli/Haley with the Chiefs.
Would Todd Haley agree?
“I’m just worried about this house; it’s on fire and I’m just trying to keep it from burning down,” Haley said after the Chiefs Tuesday afternoon practice here in the northwoods.
What’s been smoldering for the Chiefs has been the offense, and there was some improvement on Tuesday, but it seemed to come more from the running game than the passing game.
After practice Haley was asked about the play of his starting QB Matt Cassel and the state of the offense.
“I think in general, across the board, for us to have a chance we are going to have to play pretty good football,” said Haley. “We are not going to be able to beat ourselves, whether it’s poor throws, penalties, turnovers, whatever it is.
“I’m always concerned with the quarterback. I thought today we threw the ball around a little bit. I think there were some positives in the passing game.”
Not enough positives in the case of QB Brodie Croyle, however. During a drill, Croyle fumbled a snap from center and then there was confusion on a play whether it was a run or pass. Haley yanked Croyle from the drill, replacing him with Matt Gutierrez. In the next portions of practice, Gutierrez worked and Croyle did not. But towards the end of practice, Croyle was back with the No. 2 offense.
Haley was also unhappy and expressed his point to rookie WR Quinten Lawrence who less than enthusiastically went after a couple of passes in the middle of the field.
“Most everybody is afraid; that comes with the territory of being an NFL receiver,” said Haley. “But you have to go places that aren’t too comfortable. You’ve just got to get the job done.”
More from the afternoon workout:
– The Chiefs offense showed some spark with the running game; with the ball backed up in at the offense’s 1-yard line, Larry Johnson burst through the left side on a long run. Several plays later Jamaal Charles did the same thing on the right side.
– Four players did not take part in the practice: QB Tyler Thigpen, RB Kolby Smith, G Tavares Washington and ILB Zach Thomas.
– WR Devard Darling went out of Monday’s afternoon practice with a shoulder injury, but he was back in full pads and participating in Tuesday’s session.
– WR Dwayne Bowe got more work with the No. 1 offense on Tuesday than he has in recent practices, but he’s still behind Darling and Terrance Copper on the depth chart. “I thought it was a good practice,” Haley said of Bowe. “He showed up some. He’s making progress.”
– Barry Richardson continues to run with the No. 1 offense at right tackle. “Barry has a chance,” Haley said. “He’s a guy who used the off-season program to his benefit. He lost more weight than anybody else in the program, he got himself into condition and he got stronger. He should continue to get stronger as we move forward. He’s made progress daily. It’s not picture perfect by any means, but he’s created some competition there.”
– Again, searching for an effective returner, Haley had RBs handling the duties on Tuesday: Jackie Battle, Jamaal Charles and Javarris Williams.
– CB Brandon Flowers picked off Cassel during one of the team drills, grabbing a pass intended for Lawrence. Flowers got his first NFL interception last year against Brett Favre and he hopes to get another one Friday night when the Chiefs face the Vikings. “Everybody wants to play against a quarterback like Brett Favre,” Flowers said. “Those are games you never forget, when you play against a great quarterback. I hope he plays.”
- K Ryan Succop hit four field goals on the day, making them from 34, 27, 39 and 52 yards. Succop was kicking into a strong wind and he made the 52-yard FG on a “May Day” situation, where the FG team had 18 seconds to lineup, get set and get the kick off.
Bob,
Can you provide some insight on how Ashley Lelie is looking? Haven’t heard much about Toomer or Engram recently either.
It appears Lawrence may be the new poster boy for Haley’s disapproval. He had better get tougher in a hurry or he will be gone.
I believe I was wrong about Bowe, Haley must agree with most of you, he can play.
Defense must get the job done in the next preseason game, the offense is vanilla and finding their way. Do not expect much from them yet.
Real Rin ® daddy-o sez –
The usual today
“Mutt (codename M’inT’) Ca$$el throws some more INTS…
Barry Richardson continues to be the #1 RT – Herm Edwards smartly chosen draft choice having shoved & s pick Brown out of his way and into the land of backup OG’dom…
Mostly though, just ‘check’ continuing to be being a…joke, nee ‘tool…he gets ‘used.’
Favre’s act wouldn’t go over well Camp ‘check’? ‘check’s act is already a bust – he just isn’t aware yet he’s already spent all his ammo…
‘check’ continues to send Chiefs players to his version of ‘go stand in the corner’- and ‘time out’ – as well his Darling Devard drill: ‘get out of here – go run to the building!’
He’s ‘running’ out of punishments; next practice twill be:
“Alright go run to the building- no wait, in fact make it ‘go run to the building first, & then run back here & ask permission “may I have more laps master, please” and then run back to the building again.
I’ll teach you guys whose in charge if I have to cut off my 5 o’clock shadow to find my…to find my- wait – where’s is my… oh never mind – just keep running until I find a clue/figure out what I’m doing & talking about!!!”
“No Man’s Land” too has provided a ‘quiet’ if not so much pleasant respite… mostly though, Chiefs players just laugh at like this –
hee hee hee hee ho ho ho ho ha ha ha ha ha!!!
What a joke…it’s like that guy in the Windex commercial who runs headfirst into his sliding glass door, confusing it for a means to an end – progress nee way out – is that guy. The birds are the players & Rin & Herm sending him into the glass & despair again, ad nauseam…
“Herm?”
“Yeah Rin?”
“I’m a pickin’!”
“And I’m a grinnin’!!”
& & the Chiefs players/unison:
“heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh!”
Rin, have you no pride man?
No, hath not a pride or a gaggle nor even a herd – just a faithful flock of followers Stiv…welcome back!
2, 3, 4…
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Hopefully the passing offen improves as the offseason goes on. Like I said before Larry will have a pro bowl year. ITs going to be up to Cassell and the receivers on whether this team has success or not, because I also think the defense will be among the top half of the league this year.
And – in mine nee His hands, rests (tho not easy) too resides (but not for long) the hopes & dreams of yet ‘nother Chiefs season … headed for trash receptacle… put another, dirty laundry be their fate soon to be dumped down chute NFL mediocrity, once more as e’er & always…
daddy-o
Chiefs fans in their native environment: following blindly, small minded, easy… 2, 3, 4 …
From the River Falls website:
“Haley was asked if quarterback Matt Cassel was the best quarterback in camp. The head coach would not answer that question currently.”
- uh oh . . .
Kent Babb/KC Star twitter
“Has Haley lost some confidence in Cassel? Asked whether he has been the Chiefs’ best QB in camp, said: “I’ll hold off on answering that.”
tears for fears, same too for dollar$ wa$ted.
Yes, I’m curious about Lelie and Toomer too.
TO: al(ex) k
FROM: ‘check’
“Haley was also unhappy and expressed his point to rookie WR Quinten Lawrence who less than enthusiastically went after a couple of passes in the middle of the field.”
R.I.P. ‘Q’
The comment from Haley about not commenting on Cassel being the best QB in camp so far….another motivational tatic???
Keep up the great work Coach Haley. ALL of KC is behind you and we know that you will lead us back to glory very soon now.
AND NOW, Clark Hunt has affirmed Todd’s The Man!
Cassell stinks like Lindberger cheese.
Agreed Tim… be PU (not U, Mutt)
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Mark said
“The comment from Haley about not commenting on Cassel being the best QB”
- suggests that has nothing good to say about Mutt, so he says nothing at all…
Rin, and Bob G, and Kent Babb, and the River Falls website reports – you decide. However, seems like consensus to me…
daddy-o
When in chiefs history did the GM/coach admit they ever made a mistake on a draft/free agent pick up……..Dog. You keep harping on it with Haley/Pioli Yet you cant even admit that you could be wrong on this blog ……that’s calling the kettle black. I have said its a long season your chances of being wrong is very high .You may have to eat crow (belch). Take my word for…….. it doesn’t taste like chicken.
rin, i’m pretty sure you have no followers dude. Everyone here wishes you wouldn’t post, I’m pretty sure that’s the general consensus. You’re deluded man. Not a person will defend you I bet, and if so, they will surely be a vocal minority. You are nothing more than obnoxious troll, much like my young nephew, all full of internet anonymity overload – all funneled toward this site in a way that provides you all the attention you demand. No one cares what you think, if you post or not, etc – you are a nuisance.
I just read the articles, but i started commenting just to spite you and the way you demand attention away from not only the articles ( the sites purpose for existing) but legitimate discussions. You suck dude.
Harp harp, harp harp harp…
daddy-o
Anonymous
Do not mistake certainty mine nee confidence for infallibility … tho, the one time I might have been wrong earlier this year was ’stead a matter Jr. being wrong, Rin having been merely mistaken.
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wow said
“Rin”
- Icon
“i’m pretty sure”
- you are not mistaken (unlike your typical drawing of a blank.)
“you”
- tell it like it is, always; and you, wow?
“have no followers dude.”
- wow…that’s because you are uninteresting… dude.
“Everyone here”
- finds you immaterial & passe, yes…
“wishes”
- a quick death upon you likely, most…
“you”
- the same – albeit a painless one…Rin is not unkind; you could take a wooden post and-
“wouldn’t post”
- no, ‘wooden’ as your head, earmuffs- SACREBLEU BUT YOU ARE SUCH AN IMBECILE!
“I’m pretty sure that’s the general consensus.”
- yes, how tragic. Am short on time right now so will skip ahead the end your confession to Father Rin so He can wrap up this your penance. Now, as regards your abusing yourself via lusting aft the ephemeral pictorial-
“I just read the articles”
- stop bearing false witness/THE 9th COMMANDMENT. Enough…Rin must go now, any last words for Him?
I’ll pause a bit and wait for your response…
“but”
- oh wow – stop stalling man….spit it out!
“i started commenting just to spite you and the way you demand attention away from not only the articles ( the sites purpose for existing) but legitimate discussions.”
- so then, you hath lusted aft Rin in your heart; such power hath I that He can effect such action & move folks from repose to response…remember:
Your penance will be to say 3 ‘Hail Tin’s’ and one ‘Our Better Who Art Rin Tin Tin’…oh, and don’t forget to ask forgiveness transgressions yours against as well.
What was it again that you yelled at him Saturday night?
“You *! dude.”
- yes… while heartfelt not in the spirit goodwill to all men (regardless how true.)
Go now, and sin no more…
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How does cassel stink? he threw several good passes, that his receivers dropped, in fact he only threw five times and two of his three incompletions were dropped by copper and Sean Ryan. TIm you have no idea what you are talking about
Rin i bet you know nothing about football
Rin, everyone deserves an opinion, and you certainly have yours. However, you need not take more than 1-2 posts to get it across. If you can’t get it(your point/opinion) across in 1-2 posts then you need to find a better hobby. You really are ruining the comment section of this fine site. No one really cares about your jibberish and lately you don’t even sound like a Chiefs fan. The only thing you can do is say that Herm is the man and yada yada yada – Herm isn’t the man he works for ESPN now -we only won 6 games the last two years he was here. Just please stop with the multi posting of your nonsensical BS 99.99% of the people who read Bob’s site do not care about nor wish to read your Cassel bashing and Edwards worshiping. Please Rin just stop.
JB
“pick Brown out of his way and into the land of backup OG’dom…”
FA D-Mac (who started under Herm’s watch) was the incumbent starter while B-Rich (the 2009 edition of Todd’s Biggest Loser) was riding the pine last season.
Another half-fact check provided by SG.
“Hopefully the passing offen improves as the offseason goes on.”
I’ll be curious to see if a continued high percentage of MC’s passes are being completed to the Chiefs’ DB’s.
Saw a picture of Brandon Flowers running with his INT of Cassel yesterday. Who was chasing him? Quintin Lawrence. I’d be a lot more worried if it was a bona fide NFL receiver in that picture.
Ian says:
“Rin”
- yes Mr.Fleming?
“i bet you know nothing about football”
- give me all your money…
daddy-o
Josh said
“Rin”
- yes
“everyone deserves an opinion, and you certainly have yours. However, you need not take more than 1-2 posts to get it across. If you can’t get it(your point/opinion) across in 1-2 posts then you need to find a better hobby. You really are ruining the comment section of this fine site. No one really cares about your jibberish and lately you don’t even sound like a Chiefs fan. The only thing you can do is say that Herm is the man and yada yada yada – Herm isn’t the man he works for ESPN now -we only won 6 games the last two years he was here. Just please stop with the multi posting of your nonsensical BS 99.99% of the people who read Bob’s site do not care about nor wish to read your Cassel bashing and Edwards worshiping.”
- can you repeat all that…you didn’t have me at ‘everyone’ (the first word aft/other than ‘Rin’)
“Please Rin just stop.”
- Rin loves it when they sit up, beg, and then roll over…dead.
In a word: NO, shant.
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SG said
“FA D-Mac (who started under Herm’s watch)”
- wrong, he started in SD with the Chargers, then went to MIA, thence came back home to his college home state of Kansas…
“was the incumbent starter”
- until Barry Richardson shoved him to the bench, just as 6th round Herm draft pick Barry relegated 5th round & OT bust Colin Brown to backup OG’dom; yet another mistake by the not so dynamic duo…
“while B-Rich (the 2009 edition of Todd’s Biggest Loser) was riding the pine last season.”
- while former OT Colin Brown will be this years backup OG and next year’s day shift McDonald’s…
“Another half-fact check provided by SG.”
- sort of, wrong wording nee syntax thine: ‘another half-*** attempt to be relevant’, yours…
Rin wins again per the usual nee norm…
heh heh heh!
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