Cassel Says Offense Seeks Identity
From River Falls, Wisconsin
Rain has put a damper on the last days of 2009 Chiefs training camp here in the northwoods. Luckily, most of the heavy lifting for the week was already done and all that was left to do was final preparations for Friday night’s pre-season game against the Vikings over in Minneapolis.
The Chiefs will leave Wisconsin with questions about their offense, which has been unproductive and inefficient to date. On Thursday, QB Matt Cassel said that one of the things slowing down the development on his side of the ball is the search for just what the Chiefs approach will be on offense
“They are throwing a lot at us as a team, trying to see what we can handle offensively,” Cassel said. “We are trying to see what we are going to be. Are we going to be a running team? Or are we going to be a passing team? … We are still trying to find our identity.”
Cassel’s performance has been up and down as well, but he said he feels like progress has been made.
“There are some good days and there are some bad days, but all in all I feel comfortable with where I’m at,” Cassel said. “There’s a lot of things you learn from the pre-season as far as the offense goes, what routes will work against different coverages and stuff like that. It’s a process.”
That’s a favored word these days around the Chiefs: process. Todd Haley uses it often in talking about his team and especially his offense.
“I think we just have to continue to get better. It’s a process, this whole thing is a process although we might be leaving here in a couple of days camp is going to continue. It’s just going to continue in a different venue. I don’t know how many days we have left now but I’m guessing in the mid to high-20s where we’re going to be able to continue to go out and practice and continue to install and try to find our identity.
“It’s a process and right now we’re heading into our second pre-season game and I expect every position to continue to improve and get better.”
Haley said on Thursday that he expects his first team offense and defense to play through the first half, with some exceptions. He also thinks the set up for this game against the Vikings is a great opportunity for his team.
“There are certain places that you play in the pre-season that are excellent,” said Haley. “Green Bay is one because you always knew it would be a regular season type atmosphere. But Minnesota being indoors and all the excitement surrounding (Brett) Favre, the fans will obviously be excited. It’s a game I’m looking forward too. We will get a lot out of it.”
Cassel blows. Haley’s stupid. Chiefs go 0-16. Blah, blah, blah. Search, check, Herm’s the man. There, I said it all for you, Rin. So you don’t have to. Thanks.
Oh yeah…and daddy-o.
Sure its a process Cassell, especially when u had a HOF wr in Ne that forced defenses 2 roll coverages and all u had 2 do was find 1-on-1 matchups and chunk it in there. Well that aint happening n Kc,b/c no1 will double any of our wideouts and now u will be forced 2 read coverages and forced 2 deliver the perfect ball. So stop whining about you dont know what kind of team or style of play the coaches want, its time 2 see if you are worth the contract u signed! Oh yeah, I’ll give u the benefit of the doubt for the first quarter of the season but after 4 games if there are no glaring signs of improvement showing then u will be labeled a BUST!!!!
Oh Yeah, Go Chiefs in 2009 and Beyond!!!!!!!!!!!
Cassel rules. Haley’s the best. Chiefs go 16-0. Blah, blah, blah Pioli’s the real deal Frijole. Herm’s not the man. There, I said it all for you, Scottie.
So you don’t have to. Thanks.
Oh yeah…and (in my best Scottie as genuine as a $3 bill pledge) “I’m not speaking to you any more Rin – ever – until the next time I do…”
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OK, everyone take a breath. Pre-season is a time to hold one’s cards close to the vest, not reveal anything more than vanilla packages and schemes but there are certain expectations for execution, getting timing down, learning the moves of other, cadence recognition for the Oline to have an edge off the ball and so forth.
Getting in sync on the latter seems to be the issue of the moment but there’s still a couple of pre-season weeks to get all that sorted out. Let’s not lose sight of the fact that we’re getting into a huge turnover in player personnel and coaching staff from last season, so finding the commonground and getting consistent with the mission will continue to be a work in progress.
Other players/teams are experiencing similar situations. Case in point? I heard Tony G comment yesterday on his not being sure where he fits in with the Atlanta offense just now. It’s a process.
LMAO! Nice try. Never said “Cassel rules”. Never said “Haley’s the best”. Never said “Chiefs go 16-0″…or that “Pioli’s the real deal”.
I have said Herm’s not the man, though. So, you got me there.
And I also took back my “pledge” not to speak to you quite awhile ago. Right here…said it several times for all to see. I shouldn’t, no doubt…but I will whenever I feel like it. And won’t if I don’t feel like it. You just don’t like it because I own your ass. Have a nice day, BitterBoy.
Continuing…
“The Chiefs will leave Wisconsin with questions about their offense, which has been unproductive and inefficient to date.”
- there must be…what, $63 million reasons for said…
“Cassel’s performance has been up and down as well”
- that sounds precisely like what ‘check’ said he did not want – - a yo-yo team made up of yo-yo players. Mutt$ki’s been a Duncan yo-yo to date by his own admission.
“There are some good days and there are some bad days, but all in all I feel comfortable with where I’m at” Cassel said.’
- I’m not/don’t, Mutt; “Eli’s” nee Brodie & Tyler are “Comin!” for you boy!
And coach , what do you have to say?
“I think we just have to continue to get better.”
- how ‘inspiring’ (if understated)…
pregame speech Friday night: “Alright men, first we’re gonna listen to Ferrante & Teicher’s ‘Exodus’ and then I want you to go out there and win one for the ‘checker’ and-
(sounds of “zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz” permeate the lockeroom)
“HEY! WAKE UP YOU GUYS – I’M TALKING DOWN TO YOU AGAIN TRYING TO MOTIVATE! *!@^%&*? – EVERYBODY OUT ON THE FIELD FOR PRE-GAME 300 YARD RUNS!”
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OMG!!!!! YOU F@#KS DONT STOP!
Rip em’
Thanks for some actual insight and I agree with you 100%. I think we wont get things clicking until about 1/2 way through season. Not saying were not going to score or win till mid season, but the offense clicking like Haley and Chan expects it to. It takes time in a completely new regime, and WE wont see it right away. PATIENCE!!
Anyone remember Trent Greens first year, it was not pretty and 09 will be similar. I fully expect opposing teams to pack 8 men in the box on defense and force the KC QB to FIND someone to throw towards and win that way. Until the WR or TE make their catches and run with the ball, this offense will suffer. We just do not have a real no.1 receiver with the rep and back it up.
So I am going to try to enjoy the next game and hopefully see some improvement on both sides of the ball. I am ready for the season to start even if the team is not there yet.
Yes, patience is the word – for now. What’s a little confusing is we’ve heard quite a bit about the desire to be a “balanced” offense. Well, seems to me the OL is the real key. Our RBs will be plenty good enough with diversity of skills to be quite productive. We have a guy that should solidify the QB position. He’s shown he’s capable with talent around him. The TEs seem to be ok considering the reduced role they’ll place in this scheme. The WRs are a question mark. If they can consistently run the correct route(s) crisply achieving some separation, we should be productive. It won’t happen however, if we aren’t effective at opening holes for the unning game or giving the QB time.
So far, it seems there’s not enough consistent route running by the WRs or effectiveness at opening holes for the running game. That may change dramatically once the starting people are determined & have a chance to gain some consistency together.
I still believe we may have a pickup or two at the OL (RT specifically) and/or WR spot.
Keep up the great work Matt Cassell. ALL of KC is behind you and we know that you will lead us back to glory very soon now.
AND NOW, Rin Tin Tin and Todd Haley have affirmed Matt’s The Man!
Keep up the great work Brodie Croyle and Tyler Thigpen. ALL of KC is behind you and we know that you will lead us back to glory very soon now.
AND NOW, Rin Tin Tin and Todd Haley have affirmed both Brodie or Tyler are The Men! But not Matt.
I can remember when Vermiel was installing his offense in KC and how long it took to get it rolling. Wasn’t it about then when WHitlock was calling Green ” TrINT”? Patience all. And as pointed out earlier, this is pre season. No one comes out in pre season with guns blazing.
Exactly. Only a MORON would declare Cassel a “bust” at this point.
Green eyes, Rin, green eyes……
Green eyes, Scott, green eyes……
Cassel is a “bust”
Keep up the great work Matt Cassell. ALL of KC is behind you and we know that you will lead us back to glory very soon now.
AND NOW, Todd Haley has affirmed Matt’s The Man!
Courtesy of the REAL Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, Daddy-O!
Keep up the great work Brodie Croyle and Tyler Thigpen. ALL of KC is behind you and we know that you will lead us back to glory very soon now.
AND NOW, Todd Haley has affirmed Brodie and Tyler are The Men! But not Matt.
Courtesy of the REAL Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, Daddy-O!
I’m a little fairy. Courtesy of the REAL Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, Daddy-O!
Aw, someone got Rin’s goat…….it’s damned annoying, isn’t it?
Courtesy of the REAL Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, Daddy-O!
Aw, someone got Scott’s goat…….it’s damned annoying, isn’t it?
Courtesy of the REAL Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, Daddy-O!
Hey, gimme my goat back….I’m feeling lonely.
Hey, gimme my goat back….I’m feeling lonely.
Hey, gimme my goat back….I’m feeling lonely.
No, don’t take me back to Rin!!! He licks me in funny places!!
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
No, don’t take me back to Goat!!! He licks me in funny places!!
I do too when its Scott.
I kinda like Rin’s rough tongue, though.
Doesn’t someone want to lick me? I hope it’s Scott or Goat.
I kinda like Goat’s rough tongue more, though.
Or even better, Rin…..he’s got a rough tongue, I hear…..
Or even better, Todd…..he’s got a rough tongue, I hear…..
Sorry, my mistake…Todd is a silver-tongued devil, and he will lead us back to glory soon….just like Herm did.
Leave me out of this, I’m too busy pickin’ and a grinnin’ with Rin Baby!!
I’m the one to lead us back to……..well, maybe next year………
Hey, what about me? I can play the Wildcat!!
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Enjoying yourself? What are you…like 12 years old, or just just a REALLY immature grown man?
What a freakin’ douchbag. You need some serious help, dude.
Sorry that Rin confused you for me Scott, but I’ve been trying to make a point—-and I think the point is made.
Courtesy of the REAL Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, Daddy-O!
I love the Real Rin Tin Tin. Courtesy of the REAL Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, Daddy-O! All you fakers aren’t a thing compared to Real Rin.
LOL… I have to laugh that was funny….
Anyway… I hope that Jared Allen doesn’t hurt Cassell in this game, I would like to see Albert be able to handle Allen without getting raped…
I’m not one for liking to see anyone get hurt but… I really hope we not only injure Brett Favre but put him out for the season/into his 11th? retirement. If he cries too that would be a bonus
Bob Gretz your a idiot for letting you site get abused.
Yeah, I forgot about that. That will be a HUGE test for Albert. I think he will do okay anyway.
And yes, I looked back a year ago and none of those bloggers comment today that did back then, just us select few. Wonder why people are not commenting anymore? Mystery……
Wonder why people are not commenting anymore? Mystery…..
BECAUSE…..
Bob Gretz is a idiot for letting you site get abused.
stop fake posting, its ridiculous.
bob isnt letting his site get abused
his content is the site, the comments much like on a lot of websites, is really not looked at.
U “fans” r hilarious….funny how u are willing 2 give Cassell all the time in the world 2 “Blossom” with the offense but quick 2 call Dorsey a bust after 1yr..oh the hipocrisy i luv it!!!!!!!! Go Chiefs 2009 and Beyond!
Crap like this is why you cant sell any adds on here.
Doesn’t someone want to lick me? I hope it’s Scott or Goat.
I still think tyler should be the Qb better arm proven last year bill
LMAO!! We’re calling people a bust in pre-season. Come on people. Cassell actually had a good game he would’ve been 4 of 5 if wasn’t for drops by Copper and Ryan. Anyways Cassell will be fine. These games don’t count so of course now most fans are over analyzing everthing about the team.
This team will be a running football team. Their is no identity crisis. This team strength right now is running the football. Our receivers aren’t the best, but we have a very talented group of backs. We need to be a running team that feeds off play-action in the passing game when throwing the ball. Until we get a better group of receivers we better rely heavily on the run game.
Why do I read this crap!!!!!! I must find something else too do with my time … Time…. Time…… well answer all of these questions Who is best & why……….. wont be decided on this blog .Then the real winner well have his day of ……….Told you so !!!!!!!!! PnS
kcchiefs.com has a fan forum now:
https://fans.kcchiefs.com/service/displayMessageBoard.kickAction?as=118586&mediaType=messageBoards&sortType=recent
Well…no “told you so” will be coming from me. I’ll be the first one to admit (after the season is WELL underway) if Cassel blows the big one. Or if Haley can’t cut it as a coach. Or the team is not making improvements.
But right now…we don’t know any of those things. NONE of us do. Of course, some predictions will be right…and others will be wrong. But, we won’t get an idea what this team is REALLY made of until around mid-season…I’d say.
That’s how I see it, anyway.
And one more thing…all the BS here? It’s an freakin’ EMBARRASSMENT. An embarrassment to Bob Gretz, our HOST here (in case anyone forgot)…and an embarrassment to TRUE Chiefs fans, period. Re-reading some of these comment sections? To a first-time visitor here? Wow…
No wonder the number of intelligent posters here has dwindled.
And I’ve been guilty at times, myself…so I’m not pointing fingers.
But…
I’m going to do my part to keep it to football from now on…and to friendly, respectful debate.
ED said
- “I hurt my head, and that’s why I said Cassell actually had a good game he would’ve been 4 of 5 if wasn’t for drops by Copper and Ryan.”
- head pain, what’s in a name & tales of woulda, coulda & shoulda…
1) it’s ‘Cassel’ or Ca$$el’ ED, one L not two… good to know about your prefered QB. When you curse his name this fall (and you will) should really have the proper dialect & spelling…
2) woulda, coulda, shoulda been 4 for 5…Herm Edwards/Chiefs woulda, coulda, shoulda been at 10-6 in 2008 if Darling woulda scored v NE and Leggett woulda stayed with his man v TB & Bowe woulda held onto that onside kick v SD and D. Patterson woulda kept his feet and not fallen down v NYJ and the entire Chief defense woulda stayed at home/not been suckered by Ted Ginn’s end around v MIA and and…well, that’s 5 L’s that woulda, coulda, shoulda been W’s and there be another 2 or 3 where those came from.
Woulda(s), coulda(s) & shoulda(s) – don’t make excuses without them…
daddy-o
Yea, how could you forget Allen?? I think that Albert can handle his own, but Allen is a good end and he probably will make Albert look dumb on some plays, it’s his first against KC since he was traded. you talking to me gorillafan??
Jared ain’t playing.
Scott, stop it. You’re better than that. Make the pledge and stick to it, or else you’re as guilty as the troll. It’s amazing how much more pleasureable this site is when you ignore trolls. Since Bob won’t put in the work to prevent it, you have to do it yourself by ignoring, skipping over, etc.
YEAH! What he said!
Best of luck Scottie…
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